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junglebob
02-06-2008, 01:02 AM
Representative Aaron Schrock R-Peoria has introduced HB4544 Family & Personal Protection Act - Right to Carry in the Illinois House of Representatives. What does this mean? Most likely not much. It has been referred to the Rules Committee. Anti gun Mike Madigan is the chairman and his spokesman says there is little chance that Schock's legislation will be called for a vote. In light of the execution style killing of 5 woman in the Lane Bryant store in the Chicago suburb of Tinley Park it would be an excellent time for women to write Mr. Madigan and other committee members asking why they aren't allowed an effective means of defense. If you have a representative that is on the committee and won't support the bill and is up for reelection, vote them out. I am sure the gun banners will try to use this to advance their agenda. One Indiana woman was killed at the store and 4 Illinois women on February 3.

IlSlave
02-08-2008, 11:16 PM
jb,I thought Barbara Flynn Currie is the chairperson of the rules commitee.I have no idea where she stands on gun rights.

Bill of Rights
02-09-2008, 12:29 AM
According to Project Vote Smart, here is her "Political Courage Test" from 2006.

http://www.votesmart.org/npat.php?can_id=6313

Blessings,
B

junglebob
02-09-2008, 12:55 AM
Ilslave, I think you are right about her being chairman. If you look back at a post I made on this forum titled Illinois State Representives Who Will Never Support Carry you will find her name. She is so anti self defense that she voted against a bill that would have allowed using a firearm in defense of self or others to be an affirmative defense against a local firearm ordinance violation. In other words if someone was breaking in your house and a handgun ownership is forbidden by local ordinance if you use it to defend yourself you can still be fined or maybe jailed for the ordinance violation.

I imagine this explains why concealed carry bills do not get to the floor for a vote. Someone said the only carry bill to get to the governors desk was during Edgars term in 94 I believe.

IlSlave
02-09-2008, 05:46 PM
You know,I've been reading theses forums for a few years now,and I don't believe that I have read any discussion about returning the penalty for violation of the concealed carry law back to a misdemeanor like it was 25 years ago.I could handle a fine or probation much better than a felony.Back in the day,I had a local sheriff's deputy tell me that to just rathole $50 in your wallet for bail money in case you got caught....pretty cheap insurance,he said.

I know that people want their "right" re-instated fully,but I'd be more than glad to see the penalty reduced. Comments??

Sandhiller
02-09-2008, 10:11 PM
By coincidence, IIRC the bill that got us Nebraskans our CCW was SB454. Maybe it's a number's game! :shock:

Bureaucrats and statists that block this kind of legislation are not only uninformed, they have the blood of innocent people on their hands. I believe that very strongly, and I'd like to see them all kicked away from the trough so they'd have to get a real job.

IlSlave
02-10-2008, 01:27 PM
By coincidence, IIRC the bill that got us Nebraskans our CCW was SB454. Maybe it's a number's game! :shock:

Bureaucrats and statists that block this kind of legislation are not only uninformed, they have the blood of innocent people on their hands. I believe that very strongly, and I'd like to see them all kicked away from the trough so they'd have to get a real job.


I'd love for the polititions to have to give up their ARMED bodyguards,and have to defend for themselves on the streets of their beloved Chicago....I bet they'd have a better understanding of what we are telling them here.

junglebob
02-11-2008, 09:53 AM
You know,I've been reading theses forums for a few years now,and I don't believe that I have read any discussion about returning the penalty for violation of the concealed carry law back to a misdemeanor like it was 25 years ago.I could handle a fine or probation much better than a felony.Back in the day,I had a local sheriff's deputy tell me that to just rathole $50 in your wallet for bail money in case you got caught....pretty cheap insurance,he said.

I know that people want their "right" re-instated fully,but I'd be more than glad to see the penalty reduced. Comments??
It would be nice if the penalty for carrying was a misdemeanor violation with a $50 fine. I don't see that happening. I believe the anti-self defense anti-gun Chicago liberals would scream it would be putting "more guns on the streets" and such a bill wouldn't make it to the floor for a vote. This might change if the makeup of the legislature changes but with Democrat Emil Jones as head of the senate and Madigan of the house I can't see it happening. Both are very anti-gun anti-self defense. They have both been at the "trough" for quite a while.

IlSlave
02-14-2008, 07:52 PM
Well, I was just thinking that it might be a first step to getting a carry bill passed later>I was thinking that the antis might be more willing to consider reducing the penalty,than granting us our full rights,as it would still be against the law to carry....just my 2 cents worth.