Just Got My Cert.

[Tanzer]

Yup, Lil' ol' me. I'm officially able (when they mail it back to me) to teach basic pistol training all the way up to CWP qualification. I think I'll assist a more experienced trainer a few times first before running my own class, but I'm on the list.
I did this mostly so I could help at my range.
I'm not looking to get rich or anything, but giving up a weekend to run someone through a ten hour course should be worth something. Anyone out there want to say what they think a reasonable rate is???

[DAN]

Tanzer, You will have fun with it. If you are talking the NRA basic pistol course then I would just check on the NRA training web page and see what others are charging. Don't forget liability insurance. People laugh but one mistake by a student could cost you everything.

[DMorrison]

tanzer: I was wondering how you went about getting certified. It will probably be some time before I get the time to do it. But It would deffinately be a thing I would get interested in.

[Tanzer]

First, to get this out of the way, I quoted myself here from another post:
All turned out well. I'm now certified to teach everything from how to touch a gun for the first time all the way to CWP qualification, including Refuse to be a Victim, range officer, and Eddy Eagle (I aint dressin' up in no bird suit). To clarify, it's in the mail.
So Mods, I need some practice time assisting before I can run a class, but I can get contact info for folks who need help in my area (RI). I met a few people with some good state house connections. No promises, except that I'll try to help. The AG is still the AG, and nobody any better is looking at his job. PM me with any questions & as I get more into it, I'll try to help.
DAN,
I haven't made any calls yet, but (MODS: THIS MAY HELP IN THE LEGAL SECTION) these names came highly recommended as attorneys in RI: Remember, I haven't personally spoken with them.
David Strachman
Perry Wheeler
(first name?) Barcollo - Former State Rep.
I'm big on insurance. I need to be. I have rental properties, own forest land, and a live aboard sailboat - I'm covered for everything up to farting in church. I'll need a bit more now though.
DMorrison,
Go to the NRA website & click on education. I know it's there. I got started when I was looking into a grant for my club's junior rifle league. I was speaking with the tri-state director & he just gave me the # to call in my area. Takes a few months before a class starts.

[magnum]

Anyone out there want to say what they think a reasonable rate is???

I made $3.10 off the last class I helped with.

Now the question is. What do you think a reasonable rate is:)

[Tanzer]

I made $3.10 off the last class I helped with.
$5.00, not a penny less. I'm no sucker.

[magnum]

I made $3.10 off the last class I helped with.
$5.00, not a penny less. I'm no sucker.

Actually the class was for a group of Boy/Girl scouts club, and I was just assisting. I had actually offered to work for free, but the Chief instructor insisted he split whatever profit was left over with us.. And he kept his word :P

Total cost for each student was about $25. I think that paid for range fees, books and eye/ear protection. Total of about 14-15 kids.

[Tanzer]

Actually the class was for a group of Boy/Girl scouts club
Well, I'm teaching at the Country & Polo club. :D
Honestly, the whole idea wasn't really to make money, per se.
A) It allows me to classify as a business (taxes). I run another small business & the added one will allow me better status - may even incorporate. This give me a better excuse to buy that new truck I spoke of on the other thread. You wouldn't think so, but in combo, it does.
B) Maintaining a CCP in RI can be a song & dance routine. The status of instructor will help me with that.
C) It makes me "cool" and frightens the neighbors. Did I type that? I was supposed to just think it.
I just don't want to end up spending money. I spoke to my tax guy, I can deduct for mileage, ammo, targets, & some unforseen others. Unfortunately, probably not firearms, but there just might be a loophole under "hard to finds".

[magnum]

Actually the class was for a group of Boy/Girl scouts club
Well, I'm teaching at the Country & Polo club. :D
Honestly, the whole idea wasn't really to make money, per se.
A) It allows me to classify as a business (taxes). I run another small business & the added one will allow me better status - may even incorporate. This give me a better excuse to buy that new truck I spoke of on the other thread. You wouldn't think so, but in combo, it does.
B) Maintaining a CCP in RI can be a song & dance routine. The status of instructor will help me with that.
C) It makes me "cool" and frightens the neighbors. Did I type that? I was supposed to just think it.
I just don't want to end up spending money. I spoke to my tax guy, I can deduct for mileage, ammo, targets, & some unforseen others. Unfortunately, probably not firearms, but there just might be a loophole under "hard to finds".

I am currently not a business strickly for hobby. However, I can deduct a lot of the same things you are. I think if you make a profit in your hobby in 2 out of 5 years (or something like that) then you have to classify it as a business.

Guns I would always buy in my name. Depending on the business you form when closing, you simply can not just walk away that easy with everything. If they are free and clear in your name that's not a problem.


Depending on your other business you might want to leave them seperated. Even our local gun shop has his range as a separate business, and I have no doubt is for legal reasons.


But, don't take my word, I am not a taxman, you need to talk to "people". :P

[Tanzer]

/\ Of course I would talk, but I know you right about the "in name" deal. Things like a travel safe however.....

[EBDPA]

NRA offers certified instructors two types of insurances... one is Instructor Insurance and Instructor Plus... the basic instructor insurance covers ONLY NRA certified classes and usually only covers one location.. ie house... business.. one range.. etc.... the Instructor Plus is more expensive, though not terribly so, and it covers any course you teach.. even beyond NRA courses and it covers you wherever you teach..

Good Luck,

[VegasGeorge]

Hey, good job! I'm jealous. That's something I've thought about doing, but never got motivated enough to follow through. Enjoy it!

[magnum]

One other thing to note, is also get a good lawyer. You will need a lawyer to verify that your class waiver meets your state standards. The generic one may or may not fit the bill.