The First "Option"

[brotherbill3]

Well, the first sidearm descision has been made ...
Harrington and Richardson M900, 4" Bbl, DA/SA 9 Shot .22 S L LR revolver. It is inhertited from my grandfather (Sr to my III).

... can't do enough justice to honor him w/out a longer post (perhaps soon on my own website). lets say - he greatly influenced Jr and together both influenced III (that's me). We know hes in a better place (no doubts he's in the choir) with my g-ma singin praises ... he was our own walking miracle and had a last few good days w/ him before passed easily

Anyway - once I get thru some paperwork and get to practice I'll compare notes (esp. w/ Vegas George & Christy w/ the Roscoe) on what works best ...

If anyone has any suggestions on good IWB or other carry methods for this type of critter ... I'd love the input.

I still hope to add to this soon, but my mrs decided to try deer hunting using the pontiac vibe (actually bambi's aunt walked blindly infront of us) but it will be 8K$ or so ... we'll find out in 3 weeks ... when its done and go back to PA to pick up our car ... so alot of this will have to wait ...

its been a long week.

"Brother" Bill III

[Bill of Rights]

Very sorry to read of your loss, Br. Bill. This is not a way one ever wishes to acquire a new firearm or anything else.

Remember all the good times and count yourself blessed for having known him. I was named for both my grandfathers-one passed when I was 12; the other went to his reward about seven years before I was born. I will keep you in my prayers.

Blessings,
B

[pioneer461]

Is there a reason you prefer a .22 caliber pistol for concealed carry, over a more substantial caliber? A twenty-two is better than noting, of course, but not by much. I too have heard the myth that .22's kill more people than any other caliber. I'm still waiting for someone to show me the evidence of that. Sure many people do die from a .22 wound. Eventually thay may bleed out, but since self defense is all about stopping a violent criminal assault, someone shot with a .22 can still cause a great deal of damage before bleeding out.

May I suggest you do a bit more research before deciding to bet your life that a .22 might eventually cause someone to bleed-out? I suggest a 9mm or .38 special as a minimum defense caliber.

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[tuna]

I've got an NEF .22 revolver, probably similar to yours. I found holsters made for K frame Smiths, are a pretty decent fit. You'll just have to try them to be sure.

.22 isn't the best bet for defense, but it is a start.

[Bill of Rights]

Is there a reason you prefer a .22 caliber pistol for concealed carry, over a more substantial caliber?...

Pioneer,
With respect, I think it's fair to say that he would have chosen in a heartbeat to be completely unarmed rather than to acquire this particular firearm in the manner he did. When one inherits, preference has nothing at all to do with it.

Blessings,
B

[brotherbill3]

pioneer461 wrote:
Is there a reason you prefer a .22 caliber pistol for concealed carry, over a more substantial caliber?...

Bill of Rights wrote:
Pioneer,
With respect, I think it's fair to say that he would have chosen in a heartbeat to be completely unarmed rather than to acquire this particular firearm in the manner he did. When one inherits, preference has nothing at all to do with it.

Thanks Bill of Rights, that's true enough. :cry: I've already had and used his JC Higgins Mod 20, 12 ga pump gun for a few seasons; he had long since given up going a field (but I'd love to go see him get to use it with me). Still the most important thing he left me are faith, character and a name to live up to (which is the best legacy). :D

and Pioneer - true enough - my first 'choice' would be a 10mm auto (full power) ... but all my life I've had too many other 'primary' interests and been sole breadwinner for going on 20 yrs. Now that my daughter is thru school with her BS/RN ... We may have a extra dollar or two for the matched pair something in the 9 or 10 mm range9 (one each for the Mrs and Me :wink: ), and maybe even an 870 ... since the higgins is too old for all the new waterfowl shot. :shock:

As to the .22 being 'a caliber of choice' for years it was just that as I could keep my semi-auto box/clip magazine fed marlin carbine at the ready, yet completely safe by having a loaded clip, hidden, but discretely close at hand 8) . since it was easier to load quickly and safely and store safely than anything else I've had or could afford (except for a big dog and a handy AL little league baseball bat, both of which I still keep :D ) not for carry - but for 'home protection'.

Like ohter have said as well - I don't want a .22 pointed at me, and I'd rather have it and the resolution to use it than nothing.

Rest easy now. No offense taken, and I hope none give.

"Brother" Bill 3

[junglebob]

BrotherBill3, I can certainly sympathise with budget constraints not allowing one to get the carry gun they would prefer to have.

One option I'd suggest is the Hi=Point C9 9mm semi-automatic. It is an American made handgun that comes with a life time warrantee that covers anyone who owns it, if their is a problem send it to them they fix it free and send it back. It retails for about $150. I've had one for several years. Most of the people bad mouthing the Hi-Point guns on other forums have never owned one. The C9 weighs about 28 ounces.

I "fanny pack transport" one in the "right denied" state of Illinois. When visiting "free" states that recognize my non-resident Pa license I carry it as well.

I would suggest if you get a C9 or any other handgun for carry to fire 200 rounds through it and make sure the self defense ammo feeds without a hitch, though most owners report no problems with most any ammo, especially after the initial "break in" period.

BTW, Hi-point has larger .49 calibre and .45 calibre handguns, but they are more expensive to shoot. For someone on a budget the 9mm will allow you to practice more at less cost.

[pioneer461]

Is there a reason you prefer a .22 caliber pistol for concealed carry, over a more substantial caliber?...

Pioneer,
With respect, I think it's fair to say that he would have chosen in a heartbeat to be completely unarmed rather than to acquire this particular firearm in the manner he did. When one inherits, preference has nothing at all to do with it.
Blessings,
B

Bill,
With respect, it is one thing to inherit a .22 caliber firearm. It is quite another to decide to carry it as a self defense weapon. I have also inherited a .22 caliber handgun, an Iver Johnson .22 revolver, circa 1908. It is fun to plink with, but very unreliable for self defense.

Pioneer

[VegasGeorge]

Bill of Rights has a good point about reliability. Some older firearms I've played with were not what I'd call reliable. I think that's because they made a lot of junk guns back in the day. I suppose lower pressure ammo allowed for that, pot metal cast frames, etc. However, there is nothing wrong with a gun just because it's older. As long as it was well made, designed to handle modern ammo, and not worn out, it should be just as reliable as a new one.

[Bill of Rights]

Bill,
With respect, it is one thing to inherit a .22 caliber firearm. It is quite another to decide to carry it as a self defense weapon. I have also inherited a .22 caliber handgun, an Iver Johnson .22 revolver, circa 1908. It is fun to plink with, but very unreliable for self defense.

Pioneer

I didn't see where he said he preferred to carry it, but only that the decision as to his first gun had been made. Given the choice of a .22, even an old .22, I'd prefer that to bare hands or other less effective means of defense, as I'm sure we all would.

Blessings,
B

[junglebob]

That's right Bill, he could live in Illinois and not have the option of the .22, now that may change in Winnebago County soon.

Being a nastalga guy I'd get a larger calibre for primary carry and keep the .22 for a backup gun.