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Bill of Rights
07-12-2008, 02:25 PM
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Blessings,
B
Sandhiller
07-12-2008, 02:58 PM
Do you realize the implications of this?
If all libs suddenly got some smarts, the ripple effect through The Force could tear the universe apart. Be afraid!
But on another subject, the national organization chooses to interpret the 2A in a way different from both the Constitution AND the SOCUS? What's going on here? Can I therefore ask that the Law of Gravity be repealed? Are we free to disagree with the 1A, too? Something smells bad there.
Swift locksmith
07-13-2008, 02:33 AM
I'm glad that at least our state's branch of the ACLU has come to accept a more reasonable view of the Bill of Rights, as in not trying to exclude the parts it finds inconvenient. That being said, legal jargon makes about as much sense to me as a medical journal. Someone please explain how our collective right, as in all of us, versus our individual right, as in all of us, has any bearing on the interpretation of the 2A. Anyway, with the ACLU behind us I expect to hear from the NAACP anytime now....
VegasGeorge
07-13-2008, 11:41 AM
Hey Bill, way to go! Some friends told my about the NV ACLU decision, but I didn't get around to posting about it. I'm glad you did!
Bill of Rights
07-13-2008, 03:18 PM
I'm glad that at least our state's branch of the ACLU has come to accept a more reasonable view of the Bill of Rights, as in not trying to exclude the parts it finds inconvenient. That being said, legal jargon makes about as much sense to me as a medical journal. Someone please explain how our collective right, as in all of us, versus our individual right, as in all of us, has any bearing on the interpretation of the 2A. Anyway, with the ACLU behind us I expect to hear from the NAACP anytime now....
Swift,
A "collective right" (if such a thing existed) is one that may be exercised only as a member of a particular collective group. It would be akin to saying that the right of free press exists only for those in the print media business, or, as (I think) Justice John Paul Stevens has pointed out, the right of peaceable assembly, which by definition can only be exercised as a member of a group. (one person does not comprise an "assembly".) Each of us has the right of assembly, yes, but we must act in concert to exercise it. The argument still falls flat, however, because for it to be a "collective right", it could be claimed that members of the UAW could by virtue of that membership assemble peaceably, but individuals interested in better, safer cars could not, as the right pertains only to groups.
Needless to say, I do not support the above phrase but only offer it in explanatory fashion. I support instead the individual rights enumerated in the Bill of Rights, which serves to isolate them and place them beyond the reach of a Constitutional republic form of government--which theoretically, we have.
Blessings,
B
Bill of Rights
07-13-2008, 03:25 PM
Hey Bill, way to go! Some friends told my about the NV ACLU decision, but I didn't get around to posting about it. I'm glad you did!
Glad to help, George! :)
Blessings,
B
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