CT permit reciprocity

[BiblicalFirst]

Hello,
The CT law page can be updated. www.CarryConcealed.net/legal/connecticut-ccw-state-laws.php (http://carryconcealed.net/legal/connecticut-ccw-state-laws.php)

This website says their information was updated in June of 08. www.HandgunLaw.us/documents/USReciprocity.pdf (http://www.handgunlaw.us/documents/USReciprocity.pdf)

They say that the CT permit is recognized by these States:Connecticut AK*, AZ, ID, IN, KY, MI, MO, MT, OK, SD, TN, TX, UT, VT*
Your map does not show VT or SD.

Thanks. :)

[Bill of Rights]

Hello,
The CT law page can be updated. www.CarryConcealed.net/legal/connecticut-ccw-state-laws.php (http://carryconcealed.net/legal/connecticut-ccw-state-laws.php)

This website says their information was updated in June of 08. www.HandgunLaw.us/documents/USReciprocity.pdf (http://www.handgunlaw.us/documents/USReciprocity.pdf)

They say that the CT permit is recognized by these States:Connecticut AK*, AZ, ID, IN, KY, MI, MO, MT, OK, SD, TN, TX, UT, VT*
Your map does not show VT or SD.

Thanks. :)

For the record, our maps were updated in June also.

You are correct, our map does not show VT or SD. I just now left the SD page, and they do not show that they recognize CT's permit. CT does not recognize anyone else's permit either.

VT is not shown either, and here's why: VT does not in actuality recognize "permits". Rather, they recognize the right to carry a firearm irrespective of a state-issued permission slip. Our map shows only who recognizes this or that permission slip, not the right to carry. This is something I would like to see change, but while I can change the states shown, I cannot change the page itself. Until that change happens, VT will only be shown as recognized by other states if the other states specifically show VT as recognized on their official site.

Blessings,
B

[BiblicalFirst]

Right. I guessed that for VT. :) Thanks.

[BiblicalFirst]

I tried to look up SD's statutes online and found this: Holders of permits from reciprocal states subject to South Dakota laws-- Misdemeanor. Any person who is permitted to carry a concealed pistol in a state with which the secretary of state has entered into a reciprocity agreement pursuant to §§ 23-7-7.3, 22-14-9.1, 22-14- 9.2, 23-7-7, 23-7-7.1, and 23-7-8 may carry a concealed pistol in this state if the permit holder carries the pistol in compliance with the laws of this state. Any violation of this section is a Class 1 misdemeanor.
Reciprocity with other states--Conditions. The attorney general shall compare South Dakota permit issuance statutes with the permit issuance statutes in states with which reciprocity is sought or requested in order to determine whether the laws of the other state meet or exceed the requirements of this chapter for the issuance of a permit. The secretary of state may enter into reciprocity agreements with other states after the attorney general has notified the secretary of state that the other states' laws meet or exceed the provisions of this chapter.

These statutes make it look like the first paragraph on our SD page is inaccurate. It says: South Dakota does honor all other state permits, so plan your vacation today!

I then tried to find which States had reciprocity agreements with SD, but I only found PA's. Anyway, it does look like CT is not on the list since we don't honor any permits save our own.

I guess I should look in the Secritary of State's office next... :)

Thank you for all your work on this. God bless.

[junglebob]

South Dakota may recognize all other states but not have reciprocity agreements with them all. A reciprocity agreement would mean that if they accept say the Connecticut permit, Connecticut would accept the South Dakota permit. Some states require a training course of a certain number of hours and are unwilling to accept a permit/license from a state like Pennsylvania for example, that does not.

[Bill of Rights]

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These statutes make it look like the first paragraph on our SD page is inaccurate. It says: South Dakota does honor all other state permits, so plan your vacation today!
...
Thank you for all your work on this. God bless.

Indeed it would seem that our page was in error. Thanks to you for pointing it out, because it is no longer. :p

Thank YOU for researching and catching the inaccuracy. I'm good, but I don't have the kind of time it would take to do this with all 50 states on a full-time basis, so I really appreciate all the help I can get.

Blessings,
B

[BiblicalFirst]

Indeed it would seem that our page was in error. Thanks to you for pointing it out, because it is no longer. :p

Thank YOU for researching and catching the inaccuracy. I'm good, but I don't have the kind of time it would take to do this with all 50 states on a full-time basis, so I really appreciate all the help I can get.

Blessings,
B

I really appreciate your work here. The least I can do is look up a few laws for my own State's permit. :)

Jungle Bob, as I have time I'll try to figure out what the SD secretary of State has to say about CT permits. Thank you.

[BiblicalFirst]

I found this webpage (http://www.sdsos.gov/adminservices/concealedpistolpermits.shtm#Reciprocity%20Agreemen ts), which gives more info on SD reciprocity, and more specifically SD recognition.
Recognition
The State of South Dakota recognizes any valid concealed pistol permit issued to a nonresident of South Dakota according to the terms of its issuance in the state of its issue. SDCL 23-7-7.4 (http://legis.state.sd.us/statutes/DisplayStatute.aspx?Type=Statute&Statute=23-7-7.4)
23-7-7.4. Nonresident permit to carry concealed pistol--Validity in South Dakota-- Application. Any valid permit to carry a concealed pistol, issued to a nonresident of South Dakota, is valid in South Dakota according to the terms of its issuance in the state of its issue, but only to the extent that the terms of issuance comply with any appropriate South Dakota statute or promulgated rule. However, if the holder of such a nonresident permit to carry a concealed pistol becomes, at any time, a legal resident of South Dakota, the provisions of this section no longer apply.
Source: SL 2005, ch 123, § 1.
The legal wording is very awkward to say the least. From my reading of it, I got the distinct impression that my CT pistol permit is recognized in the State of SD, as long as the requirements to get my CT permit are equal to or stricter than the requirements to get a SD permit.

What are your thoughts. :D

[Sandhiller]

I think you're right, and I don't think it has anything to do with HOW you got your permit. (That is, classes, etc.) It looks like if you have a permit from your home state you are good to go in SD. I wish all states were as sensible.

[Bill of Rights]

To correct my above post:

I asked an attorney to review what we could see of SD's law and his reply mirrored what the state attorney general's office said when I checked before I saw his answer. SD recognizes all state permits. I'm in the process of updating the maps. The only states that won't be shown are IL, VT, and WI, since they do not issues.

Blessings,
B