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billythekid
09-18-2007, 02:33 PM
Ok so i'm might not be the quickest draw out there but but i did want to say hi and "introduce" myself now that i'm finally on here. I'm a 21 year old male from Tulsa, Oklahoma interested in getting my conceal carry. Thanks for all your time and i hope to get to know you guys more. :D :wink:
VegasGeorge
09-18-2007, 09:19 PM
Hey Kid, welcome to the Forum!
I appreciate the humor in your post. But, just in case someone unfamiliar with CCW reads this, let me assure everyone that CCW has nothing to do with fast draw contests. In fact, those situations are to be avoided like the plague.
Kid, are you familiar with the color code of awareness scheme? That's a color code system of escalating awareness that CCW permit holders use to objectively determine when and if it's necessary to pull out the gun. I don't recall seeing the color system discussed on this Forum. So, I'm going to start a thread about it under the Defensive Tactics section.
See you there?
Welcome, If you are considering concealed carry this can be the place for advice and information on Training responsibilty and equipment. Take advantage of this group and let us know how we are doing.
DAN
billythekid
09-19-2007, 03:54 AM
Hey guys thanks for the grand welcome. George, I understand that a quick draw isn't the best. Just to let you know I was talking about the "DRAW" of signing into the site and getting myself introduced. LOL i have been meaning to sign in for a while now, in fact Stubob, Raccoon and Nodaywithout are friends and family. I was told i needed to get onto the site now for a while. I hope to see you in Defensive Tactics.
Bill of Rights
09-19-2007, 02:16 PM
...But, just in case someone unfamiliar with CCW reads this, let me assure everyone that CCW has nothing to do with fast draw contests....
I see nothing at all wrong with fast-draw contests- provided both contestants are facing the same direction (down range) and aiming at paper or otherwise non-living targets.
I do understand what you mean about CCW not being about the traditional example of these, e.g. duelling, but the skill of being able to present your weapon rapidly and fire it safely, in a controlled manner is a skill that should be emphasized and cultivated.
My $0.02
Blessings,
M
VegasGeorge
09-19-2007, 03:02 PM
This is a very touchy subject. Of course, I'm NOT referring to organized fast draw contests with downrange targets. Like it or not, we CCW permit holders have to deal with public perception, which for many consists of impressions formed from viewing decades of gangster and western gunslinger movies. We need to be real clear on this forum, that is not what we are about.
Yes, we train with our weapons. Yes, when we carry, we keep them readily accessible. But, we are not fast draw artists, itching for a gunfight. In fact, we are exactly the opposite.
We are SLOW draw artists. If we do get caught in a situation where we have to get the gun out in a hurry, we have already failed in our primary purpose. We maintain proper situational awareness. We should never be taken by surprise. We should have time to exercise options other than bringing out the gun. Drawing the gun should always be a last resort, and never an immediate response.
Discretion is always the better part of valor. When we are out and about, it is always better to avoid a confrontation than it is to fight. We don't carry a gun to make a point, or to win arguments, or to stand tough. The gun only comes out when necessary to save life, or to prevent felony crime. And, we never intentionally put ourselves in one of those situations.
When you carry, you must maintain a cool temper and mild personality. If you act like a swaggering blow hard with an overbearing personality, you are asking for trouble. Trouble can escalate, and when you're carrying a gun that is not acceptable. As a CCW permit holder, you have a responsibility to avoid those situations.
Bill of Rights
09-19-2007, 06:48 PM
True, mostly. I'm sorry I wasn't more clear in my meaning. (I was, to those of us who carry, but anyone who doesn't might miss my intent.)
I will agree that we as a group are slow to anger, look to avoid conflict rather than escalate it, and would prefer any solution short of the loss of life, property, or honor rather than having to display or worse, use our firearms to end a threat. However, I will disagree that we are "slow draw artists", in that when we reach the "line in the sand"; the point that we have no other choice but to draw, we had better be able to clear our holsters and get lead on target in a big hurry. Of course situational awareness should be paramount, and with good luck, it will help us to avoid situations in which we have no other choice but to draw, but when the SHTF quickly, we must be able to ramp up equally quickly from yellow to red and do what is necessary.
In no way did I mean or do I now mean that this (quick-draw) is done for show, for bravado, or for anything but necessary practice for the saving of life, property or honor in as efficient and expeditious manner as possible.
Once again, I'm sorry I was not more clear in my statement.
Blessings,
M
nodaywithout
09-21-2007, 06:17 AM
Billy the kid, i drew you a picture ....... 8)
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