Looking for non-residental permit info.

[St.Jayne]

I am having a hard time finding out the procedures or just information in general about the Indiana non-res permit. Has anyone tried to get the non-res or have a link to point me in the right direction? Thanks.

[Jay]

Indiana does not issue non-resident licenses. Indiana does recognize permits/licenses issued by all other states, as long as you are a resident of the issuing state

http://www.nraila.org/recmap/indianarec.pdf

[junglebob]

Indiana does not issue non-resident licenses. Indiana does recognize permits/licenses issued by all other states, as long as you are a resident of the issuing state

http://www.nraila.org/recmap/indianarec.pdf
Jay, I'm afraid you are wrong about the requirement that you be a resident of the issuing state. Indiana recognizes all other states and countries LTC, the only exception is if you are an Indiana resident. If your are an Indiana resident you can't carry on an out of state license. Also Indiana does issue to non-residents if they own a business in Indiana, unless this has changed.

St. Jayne, What state are you from? If you can't get your states LTC because it is a limited issue "may issue" state you could get a non-resident Utah or Florida permit. I am getting a non-resident Utah permit. I took a course here in Illinois by an instructor cerified by Utah, who BTW lives in Minnesota. For Florida only a basic firearms course by an NRA certified instructor is required, I understand. The course I took was good for the Florida LTC also. Applying for either Florida, Utah or Pa can be done through the mail. I currently have a Pa non-resident LTC which you could get if you were in Illinois or Wisconsin or Vermont and carry on it in Indiana. In other states you'd have to get your states LTC first, so you might as well carry in Indiana on it.

To check out the Indiana statutes for yourself you can go to www.in.gov/legislative and look at Title35 Article 47-2-21

[St.Jayne]

junglebob - thanks for the info. I live in Arkansas and have a Florida CCP. My wife was thinking about getting one and I thought I would see what the other options were. That is too bad about the PA requirement (being a resident of Illinois or Wisconsin or Vermont). Florida will accept Hunters Training cards for the training requirement. Why did I go Florida CCP. Well I was first drawn to it because it was accepted in more places. (Arkansas is far more widely accepted today than it started out being.) And Arkansas kind of jerks you a round a bit. Fairly high fees, a training course which isn't cheap and is for the "don't look down the barrel to check if it's loaded" crowd and a requirement to retrain before renewal. So I spoke to State Troopers and a couple county deputies, read the law as it sits on the books and grabbed me the Florida permit. I kept hoping that we would get a national CCP, but the political winds are against it, so I thought I would check and see what can be had out there. Looks like I ran into a dead end on the Indiana track. I like there thinking though on the lifetime license.

[junglebob]

St. Jayne, The Florida non-resident LTC is a good choice. It gives you a lot of states, 30 I believe as a non-resident and several more if you are a resident. Utah and Florida are almost the same except with Utah you can't carry in Florida, unless you are a Utah resident. You do get Minnesota with Utah, which is one you don't get with Florida. Utah is a little less expensive initially about $63 and renewals are $10, both states are 5 year.

Your Florida LTC will do you just fine in Indiana, or Kentucky or Missouri or Tennessee and 26 others. Of course don't venture into Illinois or Wisconsin carrying on it. A number of Illinoisans do have Florida or Utah or Pa, some on the Illinoiscarry.com forum have several.

[Jay]

Jay, I'm afraid you are wrong about the requirement that you be a resident of the issuing state.

Sir, If that's accurate, I'll stand corrected. I would appreciate a link to that statute, as I've been unable to locate that particular wording.

Thanks, Jay

[junglebob]

Sir, If that's accurate, I'll stand corrected. I would appreciate a link to that statute, as I've been unable to locate that particular wording.

Thanks, Jay
OK I'll give the complete URL www.in.gov/legislative/ic/code/title35/ar47/ch2.html go there and almost all the way to the bottom of the page that comes up (2-21)to "Recognition of Retail Dealers Licenses and License to Carry Handguns Issued By Other States". It says that Indiana recognizes all other states handgun licenses according to the terms of the license. I guess that would mean if the state issuing puts a restriction on it, say for a revolver only you'd have to abide by that in Indiana too. (Thats my interpretation I'm not a lawyer and don't play one on TV) I had a little trouble myself finding that wording again. If you want another opinion the number for the Indiana State Police Headquarters is 317-232-8250. The wording in the Indiana Code doesn't say that it accepts a non-resident license, but since it doesn't say it must be a residents license either one should be OK. Look at THE LAW section here at the Indiana page and it mentions nothing about resident only licenses being accepted, some states like Florida do make this requirement.

If you find somewhere in Indiana law that states an out of state permit is not valid please point out the Title, Article etc. I carry in Indiana on my non-resident Pa LTC and would definitely want to know if it wasn't recognized.

[Jay]

Ok, I guess I took the part that says will be recognized according to the terms thereof but only while the holders are not residents of Indiana... to mean that the holder would be a resident of the state that issued the license.......... I"ll call ISP tomorrow and see what they have to say.

[junglebob]

Ok, I guess I took the part that says ... to mean that the holder would be a resident of the state that issued the license.......... I"ll call ISP tomorrow and see what they have to say.

Let us know what they say. You might ask them about that "recognized according to the terms thereof" wording. Ask them if it restricts the LTC holder to carrying a revolver only if they must do so in Indiana? I hope that the ISP has someone that is knowledgeable. There was a Florida trooper on another forum that stated that a Florida LTC was only good for an non-resident if he had his own states LTC. If whoever you talks with says that you must be a resident of the issuing state I hope he or she can cite the state statute requiring this. Several folks there corrected him and commented on his ignorance of Florida gun law.

There was a fellow on the Illinoiscarry.com forum that got into a discussion with a state trooper about how to legally transport a firearm in Illinois if you were a resident. He said it had to be cased,unloaded, and broken down or not immediately accessible and ammunition had to be seperate from the firearm. The fellow from the Illinoiscarry forum told him that it only had to be unloaded and cased and the ammunition could be in the case, even a loaded magazine. He even told him about the state police website that has a question about how to transport and if the ammunition can be in the case. (The requirement for non-residents is unloaded, encased, and unaccessible.) It didn't make any difference to him it was "department policy" to arrest you if it wasn't unaccessible.

[Jay]

I called the Indiana State Police today and talked to a trooper named Anthony in the firearms licensing dept. Basically you're fine carrying in Indiana with a resident or a non-resident out-of-state permit/license. He said that the only hang-up will be that if the address on the permit/license does not match the address on the drivers' license, there will be a records check run on both the gun permit/license, and the drivers license. It could detain a person a bit longer, but that's about the extent of it. (assuming that both checks return clean)

Less rules, the better. Bob, you're right. I stand corrected sir. Thanks...... :thumbsup: