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ExSniper
01-07-2009, 11:39 PM
My classes have been fully booked most of this year, but especially since the election. I have taught about seven times as many people in 2008 as I did in 2007.

Is this trend the same everywhere?

If you are a new CCW holder, why did you decide to get your permit now?

Thanks,

Mark

CA CCWInstructor
01-08-2009, 12:08 AM
2008 was about the same as 2007. What we had a huge increase in was Utah out of state permits. That went through the roof.

junglebob
01-08-2009, 09:34 AM
2008 was about the same as 2007. What we had a huge increase in was Utah out of state permits. That went through the roof.
I took a Utah LTC course here in Illinois. A fellow from the Illinoiscarry.com forum got it put together. I was surprised that there were 20 to 25 people at it and only 3, I believe, from the forum. The rest were just local folks that heard about it I guess.

Folks may assume that you need to take a course in Utah for the Utah LTC, but you don't. The fellow that puts it on is a Utah instructor from Minnesota. He goes through Illlinois and parts of Wisconsin, as well,putting on the course. The Utah course is popular because it is accepted in 29 states, as is Florida if you are a non-resident. Cost of Utah is 65.25 for 5years, Florida $117 for 7. Utah renewal is only $10. With the Utah non-resident LTC you can carry in Minnesota but not Florida. With Florida non-resident LTC you can carry in Florida but not Minnesota. If you are a resident of either you gain a 2 or 3 more states. Either Utah or Florida LTC can be applied for by mail.

The course I took was good for the Florida LTC as well. I believe he said any handgun course by an NRA certified instructor was good for the Florida LTC.

I've had the Pa LTC for a while now and will have 2 when I get Utah. It will give me some states I don't have including Ohio where my daughter and family live. Unfortunately neither of these or any other is good in "right denied" Illinois.

Only law enforcement, p.i.'s, security carry in Illinois with the exception for mayors, village presidents, alderman, village trustees and marshals or deputy marshals. If you are an alderman etc. and have taken the state certified 40 hour firearms course for law enforcement you can carry.

Clark
01-12-2009, 05:09 PM
From e-mails we are getting accross the country - everyone's classes are increasing. The number of women is also up.

I will ask to start tracking that kind of information...

nodaywithout
01-13-2009, 09:07 PM
This weekend i am going to take a instructors class so that i can get ther certifications needed to do concealed classes. So i hope to soon educate fellow 2a supporters in a way that will help them further protect their life.
I can tell you i have a talked to a few people about it at work and many are interested in obtaining their permits. i may be able to do a good 2 or so classes full of co workers.

VegasGeorge
01-14-2009, 01:17 AM
This is great news. It's all about votes. I don't care how leftist the politicians are, they will always go where the votes are. And, once a person spends some money on a gun and takes a class and gets a permit, they are not going to vote for a politician who wants to take that investment away from them. I've learned, nobody wants to give up anything that cost them a dime. I like the idea of counting on human nature a lot better than counting on the public's appreciation of the 2nd Amendment. Let's try to get as many people as possible interested in buying a gun.

junglebob
01-14-2009, 10:13 AM
Though training isn't required for the Pa LTC, I noticed a story on the home page here about Westmoreland County Pa where LTC applications are up 36% for the year it said there were 473 since November of 2008, story dated 12/29 In November of last year only 134 were issued. This and increased firearm sales can probably be traced to the Obama presidential win and democrat control of congress.

The Centre County Pa. sheriffs department in one week last year got about 300 applications, they handle out of state applications for LTC as well as Centre County. In March of 2008 they had about 200 from the "right denied state" of Illinois alone.

BiblicalFirst
01-14-2009, 10:40 PM
I'm a new CCW holder. The reason why I didn't get mine a year ago was age. For some reason :shrug: my representatives think that the second amendment doesn't apply to anyone until they're 21. (Well actually, my representatives don't think it applies to anyone period.) My sister had the same reasons which I had.

I have two friends in the army who are not getting their permits until they return from active duty. Without the ability to carry on any military bases, they just didn't see the value in getting theirs now. However, they are increasing their private arsenals. :D

junglebob
01-15-2009, 09:22 AM
I'm a new CCW holder. The reason why I didn't get mine a year ago was age. For some reason :shrug: my representatives think that the second amendment doesn't apply to anyone until they're 21. (Well actually, my representatives don't think it applies to anyone period.) My sister had the same reasons which I had.

I have two friends in the army who are not getting their permits until they return from active duty. Without the ability to carry on any military bases, they just didn't see the value in getting theirs now. However, they are increasing their private arsenals. :D

BiblicalFirst, Here in Illinois most of the Chicago democrat reps don't think the second amendment applies to anyone. At least in your state you do normally get old enough to qualify for a LTC. I'm almost 60 and have a non-resident Pa LTC and have applied for a Utah LTC, neither of which are any good for their true purpose, here. I did however use my Pa LTC for identification at a farm store a couple of years ago when I had lost my drivers license and was writing a check.

I do find it strange that military bases do not allow carry. I wouldn't think it was because of them being afraid of people having firearms. I understand even in "no LTC required" Alaska there is a base that prohibits carry. That just seems strange to me.