Illinois state reps who will never support CCW legislation

[junglebob]

I came accross a list of a vote on Senate bill 2165 in the 93rd Illinois general assembly. This bill was to amend the Criminal Code of 1961, providing that it is an affirmative defense to a violation of municipal ordinance that prohibits, regulates, or restricts the private ownership of firearms if the individual charged with the violation used the firearm in an act of selff defense or defense of another.
This passed into law by a vote of 85 to 30 in the Illinois house. Two reps did not vote, William David voted present and Verschoore did not vote. Governor Blagojevich vetoed it so he is in the same camp as those voting Nay on the bill.

Most of these are still in office, I'll list the ones that are Acevdo, Berrios, Brosnahan, Burke, Chapa Lavia, Colvin, Currie, D'Amico, Dunkin, Feigenholtz, Fritchey, Graham, Hamos, Jefferson, Joyce, Kelly, Krause, May, Mendoza, Miller (David E.?), Nekritz, Osterman, Ryg, Soto, Washington, and Yarbrough.

I think that "pigs will fly" before any of these reps support concealed carry legislation in Illinois. Lets get any that are up for reelection OUT!

If they wouldn't even support you not being fined or jailed for an ordinace violation while protecting your life or anothers, what is the chance they will support CCW legislation?

[Stubob]

Is there a case that may over turn this in Illinois? I thought I was reading something on this and they may not have a choice.

I will check.

[Bill of Rights]

That was Wisconsin, Stubob. If it works, though, we may be 49-1!

Blessings,
M

[Stubob]

Thanks, after working on all of the upgrades, they get a little fuzzy once an a while....I am glad I posted as question.

[junglebob]

Is Stubob thinking of that pizza delivery guy in Wisconsin who was arrested, for unlawful use of weapons I guess, after he defended himself with a handgun he conceal carried. He had carried once and was arrested, then was robbed and beaten I believe. Then started carrying again and used his handgun in self defense. I believe the Wisconsin Supreme Court said it was an affirmative defense to the charges. In other words it was the only alternative he had to defend himself. I'd say he got a defacto concealed carry permit from the Wisconsin Supreme Court. I imagine he may pack all the time now!

[Bill of Rights]

That's the one, Junglebob. But the guy doesn't deliver pizzas anymore. I can't say as I blame him. I don't ever want to have to use my weapon, certainly not more than once. I will if I have to, of course, but I'd prefer not.

Blessings,
M

[junglebob]

All but 4 of those state reps I mentioned are in Cook County, most in Chicago and all but 4 of the state senators are in Cook County, most in Chicago. If Chicago could only become its own state we'd have carry legislation through in the next general assembly.

[Bill of Rights]

All but 4 of those state reps I mentioned are in Cook County, most in Chicago and all but 4 of the state senators are in Cook County, most in Chicago. If Chicago could only become its own state we'd have carry legislation through in the next general assembly.

I know the stories about the graveyard votes in C(r)ook County, but somebody's voting these jokers in. If Chicago was removed from the vote just to see what happened, I'm not altogether sure that the rest of the state would vote that much differently. Still, it's good to have a place like IL around so we can point to places that make legislation that makes sense and stops infringing on the peoples' rights vs. places with draconian laws and socialist politics and make a fair comparison with per capita crime rates. Of course, then it's not the fault of the restrictive laws, it's the fault of all the places around them that aren't as restrictive. Or the fault of really anybody else, because it certainly can't be their fault... :roll: I know I'm preaching to the choir here, but it seems to me that the Law of the Land is pretty specific... even in the Land of Lincoln.

Blessings,
M

[Lady Di]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wMEKOr6DswM

[Lady Di]

Need help, just whistle! :roll:
SPRINGFIELD, Ill. (AP) - Park district police in the state capital plan to start handing out free emergency whistles people can use to call for help if they're attacked.

The move comes after a 48-year-old woman was attacked while jogging in Springfield's Washington Park. She fought off her attacker. No one has been arrested.

The plastic whistles come in bright yellow, red, blue or green. Park District Police Chief George Judd says he hopes potential attackers see the whistles and are scared off.

[Bill of Rights]

Lady Di's post reminded me of this:

Montana Grizzly Bear Alert:

In light of the rising frequency of human/grizzly bear conflicts, the
Montana Department of Fish and Game is advising hikers, hunters, and
fishermen to take extra precautions and keep alert of bears while in the
field. "We advise that outdoorsmen wear noisy little bells on their
clothing so as not to startle bears that aren't expecting them. We also
advise outdoorsmen to carry pepper spray with them in case of an encounter
with a bear." It is also a good idea to watch out for fresh signs of bear
activity. Outdoorsmen should recognize the difference between black bear
and grizzly bear excrement: Black bear excrement is smaller and contains
lots of berries and squirrel fur. Grizzly bear excrement has little bells
in it and smells like pepper.

Why do I envision a whole lot of assault victims in the Springfield area whistling when they break wind?

Blessings,
M

[junglebob]

All but 4 of those state reps I mentioned are in Cook County, most in Chicago and all but 4 of the state senators are in Cook County, most in Chicago. If Chicago could only become its own state we'd have carry legislation through in the next general assembly.

I know the stories about the graveyard votes in C(r)ook County, but somebody's voting these jokers in. If Chicago was removed from the vote just to see what happened, I'm not altogether sure that the rest of the state would vote that much differently. Still, it's good to have a place like IL around so we can point to places that make legislation that makes sense and stops infringing on the peoples' rights vs. places with draconian laws and socialist politics and make a fair comparison with per capita crime rates. Of course, then it's not the fault of the restrictive laws, it's the fault of all the places around them that aren't as restrictive. Or the fault of really anybody else, because it certainly can't be their fault... :roll: I know I'm preaching to the choir here, but it seems to me that the Law of the Land is pretty specific... even in the Land of Lincoln.

Blessings,
M
I can tell you one thing the difference between Chicago and most of southern Illinois is like night and day. Have you ever heard of the Morton Grove handgun ordinance? Probably. Have you heard of the Kennesaw Georgia firearms ordinance? I bet you have. Did you know 2 small southern Illinois communities passed similar ordinances. In the early 1980's when Morton Grove Illinois was banning handgun ownership Goreville Illinois passed an ordinance requiring every household to have a firearm.

I remember a story a year or so ago about someone who had their daughters ex-boyfriend break in their house at 1 a.m. or something. He was holding them at gun point. The parents said they had to use the bathroom and he let them leave the room where he was holdong them. Grandma was left in the room with him and got his gun away from him and it went flying across the floor. The father returned with a .45 pistol at about that time. The guy went for another handgun and was shot dead. The sheriff was quoted in the paper as saying when someone breaks into your house in the middle of the night its probably not to have coffee. You are justified in defending yourself, or words to that effect. In Chicago I expect the father would have been taken away in handcuffs, and we'd be reading in the paper the states attorney is deciding if charges may be brought.
Of course the parents of the perpetrator said how he was a "good boy", probably an alter boy.