Is legal concealed carry available to ordinary Illinoisans?

[junglebob]

Has anyone heard that a States Attorney in Illinois can issue a concealed carry permit, good in his county. I got in a short discussion with a law enforcement officer one day about concealed carry and he mentioned that. If it is so, it would be great if some States Attorney would offer to issue to anyone 21 years and over with a FOID card.

Imagine a county in Illinois with say 500 civilians legallly packing. What will the anti-gun anti-self defense politicians say after a year or so when the is no "blood running in the streets" and crime goes down.

What county's States Attorney might do it? Maybe one like Johnson county in southern Illinois where Goreville is located. Never heard of Goreville? Ever heard of Kennesaw Georgia? Goreville passed an ordinace like Kennesaws in the 1980's when Morton Grove passed their handgun prohibition. Goreville's ordinance was a little different, it required every household to have a firearm. Goreville is small with a very low crime rate. The Bank of Goreville used to give a firearm as a premium for purchasing a large CD. Sorry that is no longer available they were bought out. Thought I'd give that little bit of history for those who think that all of Illinois is as anti-gun as the Chicago area.

[Bill of Rights]

So? "If you build it, they will come." Time to start looking for a States Attorney, JungleBob! :)

Blessings,
M

[junglebob]

I would expect folks to come if concealed carry is available, I gather that the carry permit is restricted to the county you are in. I've got to do some research on it, might be only for someone who has an order of protection filed against someone or something like that.

I took two of my grandsons to a NRA shooting camp held at a gun club in the area a few weeks ago. I was talking to one of the members and asked if he thought many were interested in getting concealed carry in Illinois. He said about 95%.

[Bill of Rights]

Great numbers! If 95% of the state wants CCW, however, why are they not voting people into office who will make it happen? If this is true, we may just see CCW nationwide in our lifetimes. Of course, as long as there are "CCW permits", we, the "masters" are still asking our servant's (government) permission to exercise a right with which we are endowed by our Creator... and that, I see to be a goal to correct.

But if IL stops unConstitutionally restricting RKBA, this would be a GREAT, huge step forward!

Good luck!

Blessings,
M

[junglebob]

I didn't mean to give the impression that 95% of Illinoisans want concealed carry. The 95% was members of that gun club. Support in southern Illinois would be good and of course support in the Chicago area would be poor, and a large percentage of Illinois population is in that northeast corner. Every year my rep or another southern Illinois introduces a concealed carry bill and so far the northern democratic leadership sends it to committee to die. Even democrats down here tend to be pro-gun, or at least neutral.

[Bill of Rights]

Can a portion of a state secede from the other portion of the same state?

(you may take that as seriously (or not) as you wish.)

Blessings,
M

[junglebob]

St. Michael, Great minds think alike. I believe I brought the idea up on the Illinoiscarry.com forum website, if I didn't I'm just revising history. Anyway, we had an interesting discussion about it. I was suggesting Southern Illinois cessede and maybe become part of Kentucky. Have you ever heard of the stillborn state of Franklin. It was comprised of 8 counties in what is now northeast Tennessee. The people in this area were upset because their land was taxed at the same rate as the more productive farms on the eastern planes. The Indians, aidded and abetted by the British army, menaced the frontiersmen during the late Revolutionary War. Although these acts of terrorism continued, North Carolina offered little help to the frontiersmen due to the states poor financial condition. It was never officially admitted to the union and existed for 4 years. It had been part of North Carolina, John Sevier became their governor. On August 23, 1784 delegates from the North Carolina counties of Washington, Sullivan, Spencer (now Hawkins) and Green - all counties in present day Tennesseee- convened in the town of Jonesborugh and declared the lands independent of North Carolina. On May 16, 1787 a petition fro statehood was submitted to the U.S. Congress. Seven states voted to admit the state, less than the 2/3 majority required. North Carolina sent troops to take it back. Govenor Sevier assembled the milita (135 total), most of whom lived in Franklins three lower counties, they marched in late February 1788 to do battle. Unfortunately they didn't prevail. However North Carolina later ceded the land back to the U.S. government. It ended up being part of a new state Tennessee and its first governor was John Sevier. There is a little book Franklin the Stillborn State that I got this information from and it elaborates more.

On the Illinoiscarry forum some folks suggested that Chicago just become its own state. Guys in Chicago didn't like the idea. I mentioned about southern Illinois becoming part of Kentucky, since the book 9 nations of North America says we are part of Dixie and some southern Illinoisans did fight for the south in a Tennessee regiment. Chicago being its own state might be the best idea. Our present governor lives in Chicago not the governors mansion in Springfield and flys back and forth at state expense.