Jamming

[nodaywithout]

What are the best prodects to prevent jamming with a pistol?

[VegasGeorge]

What are the best prodects to prevent jamming with a pistol?

Point the pistol at the lead guitarist, and yell: "Stop, or I'll shoot!" :lol:

Seriously, Jamming can be caused by several things. Dirt, lack of lubrication, limp wristing, feed ramp, damaged casings, weak springs, etc.

Pistols seem to have favorite ammo. If you experience jamming with one brand, try another. Pistols like nice round bullets, blunt nosed bullets, like hollow points, can be a problem. Usually that's a feed ramp issue. Try a different bullet.

If the ejected casing is stuck in the gun, "stove pipe" style, then you may be limp wristing when you shoot. Or, your return spring may by weak, but I doubt it.

If you keep the gun clean, and well lubed, and hold it firmly while shooting, you really shouldn't have much trouble.

[nodaywithout]

Point the pistol at the lead guitarist, and yell: "Stop, or I'll shoot!" :lol:



ooh thats badddd

[Raccoon]

Make sure that the feed ramp is polished. That will help.

[EBDPA]

Buy a Glock.... ! :wink:

[CA CCWInstructor]

Good Ammo, Good magazines, properly lubed gun. That should fix most problems.

The rest maybe shooter induced.

[HairyEyeball]

What's a "prodect"?

There is no magical potion on the market that will prevent jamming, any more than there is one that will insure accuracy, guaranty rain, or bring supermodels knocking ravenously at your door. As others have stated, stay with the basics: Keep your firearm clean, tuned, lubricated, and 'digesting' the ammunition it 'likes' - and practice correct shooting skills.

Also, a little thoroughness and 'common sense' are part of the picture: A mirror-bright bore and chamber are good, but won't prevent a bit of grit or congealed lube from obstructing the firing pin tunnel, and a lube that works in an Arizona summer may not work all that well in a Minnesota winter.

Nothing you buy will guaranty the 'as advertised' functioning of a firearm, the only reliable element is you.

[Bill of Rights]

What's a "prodect"?

There is no magical potion on the market that will prevent jamming, any more than there is one that will insure accuracy, guaranty rain, or bring supermodels knocking ravenously at your door. As others have stated, stay with the basics: Keep your firearm clean, tuned, lubricated, and 'digesting' the ammunition it 'likes' - and practice correct shooting skills.

Also, a little thoroughness and 'common sense' are part of the picture: A mirror-bright bore and chamber are good, but won't prevent a bit of grit or congealed lube from obstructing the firing pin tunnel, and a lube that works in an Arizona summer may not work all that well in a Minnesota winter.

Nothing you buy will guaranty the 'as advertised' functioning of a firearm, the only reliable element is you.

A "prodect" is the same thing as a "guaranty", HEB. They're called "typographical errors", and are a fact of life and being human. Usually, especially when you can tell from context what someone means, it's nicer to offer helpful suggestions in private, rather than to publicly embarrass someone. After all, you probably aren't terribly fond of it happening to you, are you? :wink:

With respect, and

Blessings,
B

[HairyEyeball]

Didn't expect you to get your knickers in a knot over being too lazy to proofread, but it may go with assuming an alternate spelling is 'wrong' without bothering to consult a dictionary. Of course, the only 'relevant' portion of the post was yanking your chain, right?

I know a fair amount about a number of things relevant to this forum, and while I make no claim to be the ultimate authority on any of them, I have some respect in the firearms community. I also bring some experience as Moderator of three other online fora (I'll save you the trouble of checking, 'fora' is the correct plural of 'forum') where even the children spell check and proofread, and of just a few occasions where clear and concise communication and attention to detail could and did determine the difference between life and death.

If the law enforcement officers or military personnel were as careless in the performance of their duties as some people are with their words, in this era of spell checkers and auto-correct, the consequences might be graver than someone making a fool of himself over being tweaked for an error that egregious. If some - and I specify only some - of the members here were as careless with their firearms as with their language, the Brady Bunch would have already succeeded in civilian disarmament. And if those sentiments cut too many too deeply, we can go our own ways in peace.

[liquibyte]

I may be wrong but wouldn't it be foro and not fora? Not that I'm immune to an occasional typo or two, but the internet is a wonderful resource.

[HairyEyeball]

I may be wrong but wouldn't it be foro and not fora? Not that I'm immune to an occasional typo or two, but the internet is a wonderful resource.

Conceivably - I'm also susceptible to the odd error, but never having studied Latin (and finding a dearth of English - Latin dictionaries readily available), I rely on one who has (a local Catholic Priest), who verified the plural form of 'forum - fora' as similar to 'stadium - stadia'. He remembered a fair non-Liturgical amount from those studies, including the doggerel:

Latin is a language / That's dead it's plain to see;
First it killed the Romans / And now it's killing me.

I make every effort to fact-check, but one is only as reliable as one's source documentation. Any Latin scholars care to weigh in?

[45Fan]

Not to change the subject but, isn't this a CCW message board?

I suck at grammer and never really cared much for it, lets fight the people that want to allow us to get killed in an alley "for the children". We are all on the same side here... :)

[Bill of Rights]

Didn't expect you to get your knickers in a knot over being too lazy to proofread

This has nothing to do with me proofreading. This has to do with me, as one of the moderators, trying to use a little dig to make a point, as opposed to stifling conversation by pouncing you. I'm rather a good speller myself, and have gotten a compliment or two on my writing. Nonetheless, I'm not perfect; never claimed to be. I do know, however, that if I'm going to offer a correction on someone's spelling, I do it with respect and in private most of the time unless there's a very good reason not to do so.

Not everyone writes in "the Queen's English" or with perfect spelling. As long as their point can be understood, I'm willing to cut them some slack.

45Fan is correct. We need to be on the same side, not gouge at each other over tiny details like which vowel a poster typed.

Blessings,
B

[nodaywithout]

Ok, so back on topic, with a slightly different phrasing....
What do you do and or use to prevent jamming with your pistol?

(oh and i am a bit surprised that racoon was not the one who said buy a glock. hehehe)

[VegasGeorge]

Try lubing it really well using Break Free CLP. Be sure to leave a bit of lube on the feed ramp.

[Dan in Broken Arrow]

My rule of thumb on autos is; all new guns get the feed ramp polished after gun has been cleaned before firing.

I polish the feed ramp with a dremel tool (cotton cone shape bit) and jewelry cleaner/polish.

I have noticed that most jamming is due to poor gripping of the firearm. I am not a huge 1911 fan, but one of the greatest attributes to these firearms are that they teach through muscle memory great firearm grip control.

Dan

[molonlabetn]

The best PRODUCT to minimize jamming?

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Hmmm, I'd say a hand-press... to strengthen your grip (reduce limp-wristing). Also, proper cleaning and lubrication... but there's no one which is right for all pistols. Rem-Oil is pretty good, if you want a suggestion.

Use quality ammo, and keep your gun clean. If it's not reliable after doing that... the best product you could buy would be a better gun... honestly.

"Buy a Glock"... heh, now that's funny... as if they're immune or something. :P

[DAN]

Harry eyeball, Lite en up a wittle bit.
DAAN

[nodaywithout]

"Buy a Glock"... heh, now that's funny... as if they're immune or something. :P

I saw a glock jam up three times yesterday a t the range, i took video of it to prove to one of my friends that they do jam

[junglebob]

What are the best prodects to prevent jamming with a pistol?
Something I read on another forum is that pistols are more prone to jamming for the first 200 rounds. Someone suggested to never carry a handgun for self defense until you've put 200 rounds through it to break it in. I found more jamming problems myself in this period and seldom now. If you have a new handgun this may be the reason.

[Outlaw]

Can't we all just get along? :lol:

[Sky Pilot]

Good Ammo, Good magazines, properly lubed gun. That should fix most problems.

The rest maybe shooter induced.


Glock and Ruger seem to have fewer jamming issues than any other: if you are starting from scratch, start with the one least likely to jam up on you. Otherwise, CA CCW Instructor said it better than I could!

[EBDPA]

My Glock comment is just from personal experience. I have a number of handguns from many different vendors. I have found that my Glocks are the most reliable and require the least amount of maintenance to keep running. My Glock 17 has approx 30,000 rounds through it and I have had 3 failure to feed malfunctions in that entire time. All three caused by weak or damaged magazine springs, not the Glock. Now that is not a guarantee and I have talked with people who seem to have more trouble than I have, but I have also talked to people who have had similar experiences with thousands of rounds through the gun.

One thing I will say, Glocks run cleaner than alot of guns. Other than my carry gun, I don't clean my Glock unless I have at least 1000 rounds though it. I just don't need to. I will run a bore snake through the barrel right as I am leaving the range, but thats it. They just keep going. My 1911's on the other hand need deep cleaning every time out. They just run dirtier and require more tender loving care.

I do suggest that you shoot a variety of ammo in your weapon and find ammo that works well with your specific gun. I have had many people tell me that one type of ammo shoots better, more accurate and more consistently than others, even with the same make/model of gun. It is just an anomoly that we have to deal with. Once you find ammo that your gun likes, stick with it. I am fortunate that the Winchester white box from wally world seems to work great in my G17. That keeps the cost down for the competitive shooting I do.

Good luck...

[VegasGeorge]

Something I read on another forum is that pistols are more prone to jamming for the first 200 rounds.

That is my experience. The Kimber I carry jammed a couple of times during the first 200 or so rounds. Never since. I did the first cleaning right after that first time at the range. So, the jams may have been from inadequate lubrication, or the gun could have just loosened up some during those first firings. So, I'd agree that a gun shouldn't be depended on for carry protection until a couple hundred rounds have gone through it, and it's been throughly cleaned and lubricated.

[Tanzer]

We must colloquialize without becoming pejorative or disingenuous! :lol:
I'd say jams are neither type nor product specific, but rather case specific. Ergo, be it Glock, Kimber or XD, you'll get some funky action not on every Nth ejector claw, but on one once in a while. Some brands will hide dirty nitro gunk better than others, but many specific guns of any brand are troubled by variances in tension, etc. Try the good cleaning routine, etc, and if it still wants to jam, it has to go to the smitthy, unless you want to do the ship-back routine. I haven't heard a lot of people raving about their fabulous experience sending it back.

[pioneer461]

If I may digress from the topic of typographical errors...

Sometimes a really cheap gun will jam no matter what you do. What type of gun, what type of ammo? How old? How well maintained? As others have said, there can be many causes of jams.

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[Tanzer]

Sometimes a really cheap gun will jam no matter what you do.
True, but cheap guns often come with truly cheap and lousy magazine designs. In fact, I've seen some better brands with lousy mags.
IMO, lower caliber weapons are especially prone to this.
Let's go all the way down to .22 rifles. Ever hold/fire the newer Winchesters? What great feel. The balance is great, the stock is thick & meaty, and you can count on every fourth shot jamming no matter how many of those lousy mags they send you. The Ruger 10/22 feels much cheaper, but it's a reliable little tack-driver.
Now especially with handguns, you've got to ask; What type of jam? Is it stove-piping, failing to feed? As pioneer461 stated, ammo matters. Some guns are just picky eaters.
E.G. Some scaled down 1911's (one of which I carry) are super-reliable as long as you stay away from certain ammo. They steepened the ramp when sizing down, and it just doesn't like ammo that is too long if it is too blunt. On the other hand, JHP's are fine because the OAL is shortened.