Pro Second Amendment County Resolution

[junglebob]

If you have followed the Second Amendment resolution being adopted by Illinois counties you know that 61 counties and one township have adopted it, out of 102 counties. Only 3 have voted against the resolution Champaign, Stark and Rock Island. Interstingly enough the states attorney"s office in Champaign county seems to be 2A friendly. Rock Island county has the cities of Moline and Rock Island. Stark county is between I74 and I80. Cook county hasn't put the resolution on their county business, probably won't is my guess.

Interestingly all the counties south of I64 except St. Clair, where East St. Louis is have passed it, except Jackson County where it is on the agenda to be voted on Dec 12. The large majority of counties south of Springfield have already passed it.

I guess this just shows how much difference there is in the support of the second amendment in the state outside of the Chicago area.

The site to see which counties have adopted the resolution is pro2aresolution.com

I keep wondering if we could get concealed carry passed in Illinois if we let Chicago and the collar counties be their own "Peoples Republic" and be exempt from concealed carry, and just let the rest of the state have it. I believe when Pennsylvania got concealed carry there were seperate application requirements for Philadelphia.

[junglebob]

Lee county has passed the second amendment resolution making it the 71st county to do so. Over 2/3 of the counties have passed it now.

[Sandhiller]

You are correct about PA. IIRC P'burg was also included in the "exemption." Only fairly recently have those exemptions been closed.

[junglebob]

I thought I'd mention that Jackson County passed the resolution unanimously a little while back. Every county south of I64 has passed it now. St. Clair which I64 divides has not as yet.

I wonder if a concealed carry bill which exempted Chicago could get out of committee for a vote in the general assembly. It seems to me that if handguns are banned in Chicago a concealed carry permit doesn't do you much good. It also sounds like King Richard Daley wants to ignore any Supreme Court decision that would affect the handgun ban in his kingdom.

[junglebob]

According to the second amendment resolution website only Rock Island, Stark, Champaign, and Douglas opposed the amendment meaning I am pretty sure that they wouldn't bring it up for a vote or it failed to pass.

McLean County residents the resolution is up for a committee vote on March 25 in the County Building Room 400. Those wishing to speak in favor of the resolution must phone 309-888-5110 ahead of time.

[brotherbill3]

JungleBob:
I keep wondering if we could get concealed carry passed in Illinois if we let Chicago and the collar counties be their own "Peoples Republic" and be exempt from concealed carry, and just let the rest of the state have it. I believe when Pennsylvania got concealed carry there were seperate application requirements for Philadelphia.

Sandhiller:
You are correct about PA. IIRC P'burg was also included in the "exemption." Only fairly recently have those exemptions been closed.

I am not 100% sure these issues - but I may be 'out of date'. I live in Indy now - but I grew up in So.East PA. Back when I was first 'old enough' (and also too poor for it) for CCW permit - PA allowed CCW (they have for a long time) but it was County by County, as I recall. A permit may not have been valid throughout the state.
But since My folks still live there and I visit often as I can - I still try to follow the laws and I know the last set of bills at the state were going to try to give Philly (and Pittsburgh perhaps) the ability to have their own laws/restrictions - and the State said 'no-way' - only the state can make rules for CCW/Guns ... so they apply everywhere in PA.

I guess county by county is better than no counties though, right? gotta start somewhere.

Keep up the good work.

'Brohter' Bill

[Sandhiller]

You still get your permit from the county sheriff. I just got my non-resdient CCW for PA. It took 8 days from the time I sent it in 'til I got the license back in the mail! How's that for service?

[Bill of Rights]

You still get your permit from the county sheriff. I just got my non-resdient CCW for PA. It took 8 days from the time I sent it in 'til I got the license back in the mail! How's that for service?

I've been considering a PA Permit, but not sure if I'll do that or just go for my UT. Which sheriff did you send your app to?

Blessings,
B

[junglebob]

You still get your permit from the county sheriff. I just got my non-resdient CCW for PA. It took 8 days from the time I sent it in 'til I got the license back in the mail! How's that for service?

I've been considering a PA Permit, but not sure if I'll do that or just go for my UT. Which sheriff did you send your app to?

Blessings,
B

The applications by non-residents for the Pa license are handled by the Centre County Sheriff's Department. The entire process can be done through the mail. You need to have your states CCW license, unless they don't issue (Illinois & Wisconsin). Illinois residents must send a copy of their FOID card. You can download an application from the website. It has a long URL , but you can go to IllinoisCarry.com and click on Get a Pennsylvania Permit, and get right to it. It is recognized throughout Pa and 19 other states for non-Pa residents. Sheriff Nau issues the license and folks in his office are very helpful. Cost is $26 for 5 years.

[Sandhiller]

BOR--

Anything you wanna know from me, just ask junglebob. :wink:

[junglebob]

More news on the Pro Second Amendment Resolution. It looks like it is moving along in McLean county, good public support at a committee meeting and will have a second hearing in 2 to 4 weeks.

Jersey County has scheduled it to be presented to the full board on 4/8/08.

[junglebob]

The resolution will be before the Gov relations committee in Madison county on April 9, Madison county folks show your support so it goes to a full board vote. The resolution has also been submitted to Carrol and Kendall counties.

Brown County States Attorney Jerry J. Hooker is the latest elected official to endorse the resolution.

[junglebob]

The second amendment resolution has been passed by 77 counties out of 102 now. It is pending in Mercer, Kendall, Madison and McLean counties, so if you live in any of these get in contact with your county board members and urge them to pass it. I think the most recent county to pass the second amendment resolution is Carroll.

If your county hasn't passed it and it isn't on their agenda to vote on, get in contact with your board member and others about getting it introduced and passed.

[Bill of Rights]

Based on the fact that Rock Island County didn't fail it, they just refused to decide it, I think they should be diagonal white and yellow striped.Whether the diagonal should slant right or left depends on which way the "let's not vote" folks swayed the decision.

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Blessings,
B

[junglebob]

Just got word that the Pro2a amendment has been passed by 78 counties, Menard passed the resolution in September. Word just got out about it, 76.4% of the counties have passed it. Not Cook county or any of the collar counties though.

Kendall Couonty passed the resolution out of the Judicial/Legislative Committee and it will be on the full board agenda at 6 pm May 6 at the County Court House board room on the second floor.

[junglebob]

Anyone here from Kendall County Illinois. The Pro Second Amendment resolution is going before your county board tomorrow May 6 board members can be contacted at 630 553-4171. Lets make it 79 counties that support the second amendment!

[Bill of Rights]

Any word on Boone County's vote yesterday, JB?

Blessings,
B

[junglebob]

Any word on Boone County's vote yesterday, JB?

Blessings,
B
The committee was dismissed because they did not have a quorum. Consideration of the resolution is moved to the next meeting on June 2.

[junglebob]

The Kendall board passed the pro2A resolution 8-2. That makes 79 counties or 77.5% of the counties have passed the resolution. Now with 2 Winnebago County board members prosoing a county concealed carry permit resolution, I think this shows that Illinois, at least outside the Chicago are, is moving in the right direction.

[junglebob]

I read something interesting on the NRA Institute for Legislative Action site nraila.org. Click on "in the news" and then on Illinois Gun Rights Group Seeking Support of Area Counties. It talks about the 2A resolution. I thought a quote from Ruth Ann Tobias Dekalb County Board Chairman was interesting She said " I'm not against the second amendment but I'm an anti-gun advocate" I guess her convoluted thinking allows her to swear to uphold he second amendment while supporting anti-gun legislation. I guess DeKalb is close enough to Chicago for that to make sense to some people.

[junglebob]

The resolution has now been passed by 80 counties, Mercer County being the most recent 78.42% of the counties have passed it, they account for 23.59% of the population of Illinois. Someone on the Illinoiscarry.com forum that if every county but Cook, DuPage and Lake passed the resolution we would have 99 counties or 97% of the counties but only 45% of the population.

Someone said "Rock Island County (of Quad Cities are) said the resolution was not county business, yet Les Baer relocated to Iowa. Several other manufacturers are also considering moving out-of-state from the Quad Cities area at a cost of 400 jobs and $20 million in revenue. I fail to see how some can clin to the "not county business" excuse. Maybe that's the only excuse anti-gunners can grab a hold of and hold on for dear life to avoid having the resolution come before a a full board vote?"

I imagine recent "assault weapon" ban legislation introduced may have prompted Les Baer to relocate. The legislation was not passed but it was similar to legisation introduced before, except this time it prohibited manufacture of these weapons in Illinois. The anti's argued previous to this that the manufacturers could still sell in the other states if the legislation went through, so it wouldn't drive them out.

[junglebob]

LaSalle passed the Pro2A resolution 21 yes 2 abstentions and 5 absent, that makes 81.

[junglebob]

Logan county has passed the pro-2a resolution, thats 82. McLean county board committee voted 7 to 1 to pass it on to the full board for a vote on 5/20.

You'll note my last post about the progress on the Winnebago CCW resolution.

Progress is being made.

[junglebob]

Woops, Someone said that there are 81 counties that have passed the resolution. That is the correct number. A vote is pending in Boone and McLean counties at this time. If McLean approves on 5/20 it will be #82. One of the members of Illinoiscarry.com forum - Ol'Coach has a neat map of the state with those counties who have passed the resolution colored in green. Illinois is looking very green. If you want to see it go to page 62 of the topic Pro2a Resolution, Pike County under the politics forum heading. (Pike County is where it started April 2007)

Somone made an interesting comment he said about Chicago Mayor Daley "It's like he thinks the state of Illinois is his little kindom seperate from the rst of the United States."

Beware the peasants are coming with pitchforks!!

[Bill of Rights]

Beware the peasants are coming with pitchforks!!
I either picture Daley quickly passing a law outlawing pitchforks....

Or starting to sing, "Puttin' on the Ritz"....

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(Predictably and appropriately, that's Daley on the left.) Any insult to the late, great Peter Boyle is unintentional.

Blessings,
B

[junglebob]

BillofRights, You should have put Governor Blagojevich's face on the small guy.

Update, McLean County has passed the 2A resolution, so now its 82 counties. Peasants unite!

[Bill of Rights]

BillofRights, You should have put Governor Blagojevich's face on the small guy.

Update, McLean County has passed the 2A resolution, so now its 82 counties. Peasants unite!

Glad to hear about McLean County... I would not put the face of a treasonous elitist on the body of Dr. Frankenstein (that's Frahnkensteen), who was the "brains" of that pair.

Of course, for those that have seen the movie, I'm sure you'll understand if I paraphrase Teri Garr's line and refer to Daley as being an enormous schwanstucker. :twisted:

Blessings,
B

[Bill of Rights]

Woah, 4 counties added in a month and a half... not bad! What's the word on Boone Co., JB? I still see them in yellow, though their vote was supposed to be 6/02?

Damn, if this is any indication, I think that Winnebago Co. may start a real revolution... IL could have 80+% CCW within 4 years-more likely less, since they've already taken the first step of passing the resolution.

Blessings,
B

[junglebob]

Bill, The board apparently didn't get to the Pro2a resolution on 6/02. One of the Illinoiscarry.com forum members was contacted and asked by the Legislative and Administrative Committee if he would like to come to the 6/30 meeting and speak on behalf of the "Gun Control Resolution" (her words, not his).

I don't know if it was just a secretary that was clueless about the Pro2a resolution or the entire board is.

There have been so many posts regarding the Winnebago CC resolution that I haven't been following the Pro2a resolution as closely.

Someone mentioned something interesting. The State of Illinois and City of Chicago filed amicus briefs with the U.S. Supreme Court in the case "DC v. Heller" Both the state and city argued for local control on gun issues. We'll see what they say about "local control" in Winnebago county!

[junglebob]

The number of Illinois counties that have passed the Pro2A resolution is now 86, or more if some county has passed it in the last couple of days.

The Lake County Board will be voting on the resolution today at 9 am @ the County Building 18N County St. 10th Floor Waukegan, Il There is a security check. The Illinois Carry forum poster said don't bring knives, flashlights or other weapons. I didn't know a flashlight was a weapon, but that's northern Illinois for you. Even if you are down the street from the County Building this is short notice, but I just found out about it.

The Will County Board meets on October 16 at 9:30 to vote on the resolution. There is more information on board members to contact on the Political forum at Illinoiscarry.com/forum under the Pro Second Amendment Resolution, Pike County.

[Bill of Rights]

The number of Illinois counties that have passed the Pro2A resolution is now 86, or more if some county has passed it in the last couple of days.

The Lake County Board will be voting on the resolution today at 9 am @ the County Building 18N County St. 10th Floor Waukegan, Il There is a security check. The Illinois Carry forum poster said don't bring knives, flashlights or other weapons. I didn't know a flashlight was a weapon, but that's northern Illinois for you. Even if you are down the street from the County Building this is short notice, but I just found out about it.

The Will County Board meets on October 16 at 9:30 to vote on the resolution. There is more information on board members to contact on the Political forum at Illinoiscarry.com/forum under the Pro Second Amendment Resolution, Pike County.

I just went to look at the county website; apparently, Lake Co. removed the item from their agenda. There is no mention of the words "firearm", "weapon", "pistol", "handgun", or even just "gun" in any context having to do with a resolution. :shrug::headshake: :buttkick:

Blessings,
B

[junglebob]

I don't know what happened in Lake County, but Will Counties Legislative Committee has sent it on to a vote by the full board tomorrow. They may be number 87 of 102 counties in Illinois to pass it. I'll let you know if I find something out about Lake County.

[junglebob]

Will County passed the Pro2A resolution, that makes 87 counties.

[Bill of Rights]

Will County passed the Pro2A resolution, that makes 87 counties.


:rockwoot: Good deal!

Blessings,
Bill

[junglebob]

The Pro2A resolution passed the Will County Board 21-1. Will County has an executive type of government, maybe the only one in Illinois, and it now goes to the County Executive for signing. If he vetoes it, then it goes back to the board. Will is the 4th most populated county in Illinois and on Chicago Mayor Daley's "back porch", someone on IllinoisCarry.com forum said.