Clark County Code re Firearms

[Genghis77]

My thought on Las Vegas gun laws is that it is highly influenced with people moving there from California large cities.A new anti gun group of voters with lots of money to influence elections

I once lived in Phoenix. While the old gun laws and policies still stand, new people, mostly from the same places have tried to impose anti gun legislation. In 1985, I began calling Phoenix East LA because of what it was becoming.

A shame because: "An armed society is a polite society."

[VegasGeorge]

Yes, Genghis77, I have that worry too. Not only are the anti gun crowd from California coming here, but we have a huge number of retirees coming in from New York City, New Jersey, and Chicago. Unfortunately, they bring their old attitudes and beliefs with them. I really don't get it. They come here to find a better life. Why do they drag the same old crap along with them? You'd think they'd leave it behind, and get a fresh start.

[EBDPA]

I am a non-resident of Nevada. I have a non-resident CCW from Nye County.

I am confused by the wording in the following code:

12.04.200 Registration of firearms capable of being concealed.

which seems to indicate that I need to register and get permission specifically from the Clark County Sherrif to carry concealed in the unincorporated areas of the county. Can someone clarify?

Also, are there more restictive ordinances in some of the incorporated cities within the county that I should be aware of? Where does the strip fall, incorporated or unincorporated area?

I appreciate the clarification.

[VegasGeorge]

The County requires that the described firearms be registered with the sheriff. That's our blue card law. It does not give the holder the right to carry concealed. For that, you also need the State CCW permit. The laws require that you carry both the blue registration card and the CCW permit with you when carrying a concealed firearm in Clark County.


Does that answer the question?

[EBDPA]

but the content of the penal code indicates the registration is predicated upon a sale of a firearm. I have the Nevada statewide CCW already, and my gun. do I still need to register it before carrying in Clark county? Once registered, am I good for life with that gun? or do I have to register every time I go since I am not a resident of NV?

Also, was the strip located in unincorporated Clark County or is it considered North vegas?

Thanks for the clarification.

[bplv]

LVMPD has updated their site to clarify that you don't have to carry the blue card with you, but you do have to register.

http://www.lvmpd.com/permits/firearms_registration.html

According to SB92, you should have to be resident for 60 days before having to register.

http://www.leg.state.nv.us/74th/Bills/SB/SB92_EN.pdf

And the Strip is unincorporated Clark County. (Not sure why that is relevant.) LV BLVD south of Sahara is CC. North of Sahara to somewhere around Lake Mead Blvd is LV and north of somewhere around there is NLV I believe. Fremont St is LV.

[VegasGeorge]

LVMPD has updated their site to clarify that you don't have to carry the blue card with you, but you do have to register.

Nice catch! I wasn't aware of that change. However, I am certain that nearly everyone with a CCW also carries the blue card with them whenever they are carrying the gun. I'm sure that an officer would ask to see it, and I wouldn't want to be in the position of trying to explain the law to some cop who's looking at me as if I was on the most wanted list. It's just a lot easier to carry the stupid card.

[varminter22]

Also, in accordance with NRS Ch 202, as amended in the 74th legislative session, Clark County residents now have 72 hours to register handguns and visitors need not register handguns unless staying for 60 days.

Law available here: www.leg.state.nv.us/

[EBDPA]

So that answers my question.. unless I am staying more than 60 days as a non resident, I don't need the blue card..... right?

[varminter22]

So that answers my question.. unless I am staying more than 60 days as a non resident, I don't need the blue card..... right?

Correct; that is my (non attorney) interpretation. However, although the amendment became effective on October 1, 2007, it appears the county/city authorities have until January 1, 2008 to amend/repeal their ordinances. See below:

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Taken from www.leg.state.nv.us/NRS/NRS-244.html#NRS244Sec364

NRS 244.364 Limited authority to regulate firearms; restrictions concerning registration of certain firearms in county whose population is 400,000 or more.

1. Except as otherwise provided by specific statute, the Legislature reserves for itself such rights and powers as are necessary to regulate the transfer, sale, purchase, possession, ownership, transportation, registration and licensing of firearms and ammunition in Nevada, and no county may infringe upon those rights and powers. As used in this subsection, “firearm” means any weapon from which a projectile is discharged by means of an explosive, spring, gas, air or other force.

2. A board of county commissioners may proscribe by ordinance or regulation the unsafe discharge of firearms.

3. If a board of county commissioners in a county whose population is 400,000 or more has required by ordinance or regulation adopted before June 13, 1989, the registration of a firearm capable of being concealed, the board of county commissioners shall amend such an ordinance or regulation to require:

(a) A period of at least 60 days of residency in the county before registration of such a firearm is required.

(b) A period of at least 72 hours for the registration of a pistol by a resident of the county upon transfer of title to the pistol to the resident by purchase, gift or any other transfer.

4. Except as otherwise provided in subsection 1, as used in this section:

(a) “Firearm” means any device designed to be used as a weapon from which a projectile may be expelled through the barrel by the force of any explosion or other form of combustion.

(b) “Firearm capable of being concealed” includes all firearms having a barrel less than 12 inches in length.

(c) “Pistol” means a firearm capable of being concealed that is intended to be aimed and fired with one hand.

(Added to NRS by 1989, 652; A 2007, 1289)


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Taken from www.leg.state.nv.us/NRS/NRS-268.html#NRS268Sec418

NRS 268.418 Limited authority to regulate firearms; restrictions concerning registration of firearms in city in county whose population is 400,000 or more.

1. Except as otherwise provided by specific statute, the Legislature reserves for itself such rights and powers as are necessary to regulate the transfer, sale, purchase, possession, ownership, transportation, registration and licensing of firearms and ammunition in Nevada, and no city may infringe upon those rights and powers. As used in this subsection, “firearm” means any weapon from which a projectile is discharged by means of an explosive, spring, gas, air or other force.

2. The governing body of a city may proscribe by ordinance or regulation the unsafe discharge of firearms.

3. If the governing body of a city in a county whose population is 400,000 or more has required by ordinance or regulation adopted before June 13, 1989, the registration of a firearm capable of being concealed, the governing body shall amend such an ordinance or regulation to require:

(a) A period of at least 60 days of residency in the city before registration of such a firearm is required.

(b) A period of at least 72 hours for the registration of a pistol by a resident of the city upon transfer of title to the pistol to the resident by purchase, gift or any other transfer.

4. Except as otherwise provided in subsection 1, as used in this section:

(a) “Firearm” means any device designed to be used as a weapon from which a projectile may be expelled through the barrel by the force of any explosion or other form of combustion.

(b) “Firearm capable of being concealed” includes all firearms having a barrel less than 12 inches in length.

(c) “Pistol” means a firearm capable of being concealed that is intended to be aimed and fired with one hand.

(Added to NRS by 1989, 652; A 2007, 1289)


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Taken from www.leg.state.nv.us/NRS/NRS-269.html#NRS269Sec222

NRS 269.222 Limited authority to regulate firearms; restrictions concerning registration of firearms in town in county whose population is 400,000 or more.

1. Except as otherwise provided by specific statute, the Legislature reserves for itself such rights and powers as are necessary to regulate the transfer, sale, purchase, possession, ownership, transportation, registration and licensing of firearms and ammunition in Nevada, and no town may infringe upon those rights and powers. As used in this subsection, “firearm” means any weapon from which a projectile is discharged by means of an explosive, spring, gas, air or other force.

2. A town board may proscribe by ordinance or regulation the unsafe discharge of firearms.

3. If a town board in a county whose population is 400,000 or more has required by ordinance or regulation adopted before June 13, 1989, the registration of a firearm capable of being concealed, the town board shall amend such an ordinance or regulation to require:

(a) A period of at least 60 days of residency in the town before registration of such a firearm is required.

(b) A period of at least 72 hours for the registration of a pistol by a resident of the town upon transfer of title to the pistol to the resident by purchase, gift or any other transfer.

4. Except as otherwise provided in subsection 1, as used in this section:

(a) “Firearm” means any device designed to be used as a weapon from which a projectile may be expelled through the barrel by the force of any explosion or other form of combustion.

(b) “Firearm capable of being concealed” includes all firearms having a barrel less than 12 inches in length.

(c) “Pistol” means a firearm capable of being concealed that is intended to be aimed and fired with one hand.

(Added to NRS by 1989, 652; A 2007, 1290)



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SEE www.leg.state.nv.us/Statutes/74th/Stats200711.html#Stats200711page1289

ê2007 Statutes of Nevada, Page 1291ê



Sec. 4. Section 5 of chapter 308, Statutes of Nevada 1989, at page 653, is hereby amended to read as follows:

Sec. 5. [The]

1. Except as otherwise provided in subsection 2, the provisions of this act apply [only] to ordinances or regulations adopted on or after [the effective date of this act.] June 13, 1989.

2. The provisions of this act, as amended on October 1, 2007, apply to ordinances or regulations adopted before, on or after June 13, 1989.

Sec. 5. A board of county commissioners, governing body of a city and town board in a county whose population is 400,000 or more shall amend any ordinance or regulation adopted by that body before June 13, 1989, that does not conform with the provisions of NRS 244.364, as amended by section 1 of this act, NRS 268.418, as amended by section 2 of this act or NRS 269.222, as amended by section 3 of this act, as applicable, by January 1, 2008. Any ordinance or regulation that does not comply with the applicable provision by January 1, 2008, shall be deemed to conform with that provision by operation of law.

[varminter22]

It has been said (rumoured?) that some jurisdictions within Clark County are refusing to comply with Nevada law.

Hence, my letter quoted below. I have not yet received any responses.
Stillwater Firearms Association
P. O. Box 665
Fallon NV 89407

December 12, 2007

District Attorney David Roger
200 S 3rd
Las Vegas NV 89155-9900

City Attorney Bradford Jerbic
400 Stewart Ave
Las Vegas NV 89101

City Attorney Carrie Torrence
2200 Civic Center Dr
North Las Vegas NV 89030

Sheriff Douglas Gillespie
3141 E Sunrise Ave
Las Vegas NV 89101

Chief Mark Paresi
1301 E Lake Mead Blvd
North Las Vegas NV 89030

Lady and Gentlemen,

As you know, the Nevada Revised Statutes concerning firearms law were recently amended in the 74th Legislative Session, effective October 1, 2007.

Among the changes were NRS 244.364, 268.418, and 269.222, which were amended to state:

Except as otherwise provided by specific statute, the Legislature reserves for itself such rights and powers as are necessary to regulate the transfer, sale, purchase, possession, ownership, transportation, registration and licensing of firearms and ammunition in Nevada, and no county, city nor town may infringe upon those rights and powers.

Further, NRS 244.364, 268.418, and 269.222 state:

The governing body of a county/city/town may proscribe by ordinance or regulation the unsafe discharge of firearms. If the governing body of a city in a county whose population is 400,000 or more has required by ordinance or regulation adopted before June 13, 1989, the registration of a firearm capable of being concealed, the governing body shall amend such an ordinance or regulation to require: (a) A period of at least 60 days of residency in the city before registration of such a firearm is required. (b) A period of at least 72 hours for the registration of a pistol by a resident of the city upon transfer of title to the pistol to the resident by purchase, gift or any other transfer.

Lastly, Section 5 of Chapter 308, Statutes of Nevada 1989, at page 653, was amended to read as follows:

The provisions of this act, as amended on October 1, 2007, apply to ordinances or regulations adopted before, on or after June 13, 1989.

A board of county commissioners, governing body of a city and town board in a county whose population is 400,000 or more shall amend any ordinance or regulation adopted by that body before June 13, 1989, that does not conform with the provisions of NRS 244.364, as amended by section 1 of this act, NRS 268.418, as amended by section 2 of this act or NRS 269.222, as amended by section 3 of this act, as applicable, by January 1, 2008. Any ordinance or regulation that does not comply with the applicable provision by January 1, 2008, shall be deemed to conform with that provision by operation of law.

Clearly, handgun registration in Clark County was grandfathered, if amended to allow residents 72 hours and non residents 60 days in which to register.

In view of the phrase “… apply to ordinances or regulations adopted before, on or after June 13, 1989,” it is equally clear the law does not grandfather any other county/city ordinances; indeed, the Legislature reserves for itself such rights and powers as are necessary to regulate the transfer, sale, purchase, possession, ownership, transportation, registration and licensing of firearms and ammunition in Nevada.

We have completed a review of Las Vegas and North Las Vegas municipal codes and Clark County code (at www.ordlink.com/codes/lasvegas/index.htm, http://municipalcodes.lexisnexis.com/codes/nolasvegas/index.htm and www.ordlink.com/codes/clarknv/index.htm) and note the required changes are not reflected therein. Clearly, virtually all of the city/county firearms related ordinances (as posted at the above noted links) are now null, void and unenforceable.

Have the city/county ordinances been repealed/amended? Or is there a move afoot to do so as required by Nevada law? Have the sheriff and city police departments been informed that most of the ordinances are now, or on January 1, 2008 will be, null, void and unenforceable?

As we enjoy visiting your fine cities, the 424-member Stillwater Firearms Association and untold numbers of Clark County and Nevada law abiding citizens anxiously await your response.

I can be reached via email at varminter22 (at) charter.net

Sincerely,

J. L. Rhodes

Copies to:

Governor Jim Gibbons
State Capitol
101 N Carson St
Carson City NV 89701

Attorney General Catherine Masto
100 N Carson St
Carson City Nevada 89701-4717

Senator Mike McGinness
770 Wildes Rd
Fallon NV 89406-7843

Senator John Lee
3216 Villa Pisani Ct
North Las Vegas NV 89031-7267

Senator Bob Beers
9428 Grenville Ave
Las Vegas NV 89134-6206

Senator Warren Hardy
5070 Arville St #4
Las Vegas NV 89118-4904

Assemblyman Pete Goicoechea
P O Box 97
Eureka NV 89316-0097

Assemblywoman Francis Allen
P O Box 34718
Las Vegas NV 89133-4718

Assemblywoman Valerie Weber
10001 Harpoon Cl
Las Vegas NV 89117-0931

Churchill County District Attorney Art Mallory
365 S Maine St
Fallon NV 89406

Mr Frank Adams
Executive Director, Nevada Sheriffs and
Chiefs Association
P O Box 3247
Mesquite NV 89024

Ms Carrie Herbertson
NRA ILA State & Local Affairs Division
555 Capitol Mall, Suite 625
Sacramento CA 95814

Mr Glen Caroline
NRA ILA Director, Grass Roots Division
11250 Waples Mill Rd
Fairfax VA 22030

[varminter22]

I finally received an email response from the Clark County DA's office. It is dated December 19, 2007, but I just received it January 4: >>> Mary-Anne Miller 12/19/2007 4:09 PM >>>

We are in receipt of Stillwater Farearms Association's December 12,
2007 inquiry into whether local codes have been changed to reflect the
changes in law regarding local firearms regulations. Please be
advised
that the ordinance implementing these changes has been adopted for
Clark
County. It was finally adopted in early December, and effective
December 18, 2007. Since it is a new amendment to our code, you may
have missed it online, but it can be reviewed at:

http://www.accessclarkcounty.com/clerk/amendments.htm

I hope this addresses your concerns with respect to Clark County, but
if not, please do not hesitate to contact me.

Sincerely,

Mary-Anne Miller
County Counsel
Office of the District Attorney
Clark County, Nevada
(702) 455-4761
millerm@co.clark.nv.us

To which I replied via email: To: millerm@co.clark.nv.us
Sent: Saturday, January 05, 2008 9:52 AM
Subject: SFA/Clark ltr Dec12, 2007

Dear Ms Miller,

Thank you for responding to my letter of December 12, 2007.

My original questions contained in said letter were:
1) Have the city/county ordinances been repealed/amended?
2) Or is there a move afoot to do so as required by Nevada law?
3) Have the sheriff and city police departments been informed that most of the ordinances are now, or on January 1, 2008 will be, null, void and unenforceable?

After reading your email, it appears you have answered respectively:
1a) Only partially; not in full compliance with NRS.
3a) No.

While it is laudable Clark County has amended the ordinance concerning registration, it appears Clark County has no intentions of complying with Section 5 of Chapter 308, Statutes of Nevada 1989, at page 653, which states:

Quote
"... apply to ordinances or regulations adopted before, on or after June 13, 1989."
Unquote

And clearly does not grandfather any other county/city ordinances.

Nevada law says no city, county, nor town may infringe upon the Legislature's right to regulate firearms law; and the law specifically states this applies to all ordinances and regulations, even if adopted prior to June 13, 1989.

I have reviewed the recent amendment at http://www.accessclarkcounty.com/clerk/amendments.htm and compared/applied it to the Clark County code at http://www.ordlink.com/codes/clarknv/index.htm There are many instances (virtually all) of Clark County ordinances that are NOT in compliance with Nevada law.

Is my literal interpretation of the law somehow incorrect? If so, what law intercedes my interpretaton?

Has Clark County overlooked the recently amended Nevada law? Or is it true Clark County will not comply with Nevada law?

Again, untold numbers of Clark County and Nevada citizens anxiously await your response.

Sincerely

It certainly appears that Clark County is thumbing its nose at the Nevada legislature.

[varminter22]

More action appears necessary. See latest reply from the Clark County DA's office:Hello,

I appreciate your perspective. Different provisions of the statute,
when read separately, certainly can lead to different conclusions.
Accordingly, I reviewed the legislative history (as is appropriate when
dealing with an ambiguous statute). While the bill definitely started
out as a total preemption bill, the history makes clear that the
legislators added language that they intended to work a compromise with
law enforcement to allow the continuation of the ordinances in Clark
County, provided they were amended to address the transient possession
issues.

If you receive Attorney General direction to the contrary, please so
advise me, and we will reconsider our ordinance. I will also bring your
concerns to our legislative staff.

Mary-Anne Miller
County Counsel
Office of the District Attorney
Clark County, Nevada
(702) 455-4761
millerm@co.clark.nv.us
I am still seeking an education concerning why the law doesn't mean what it says.

Win or lose, there will be more to come on this issue.

[bplv]

I am still seeking an education concerning why the law doesn't mean what it says.

Good luck with that. :roll:

[varminter22]

I am still seeking an education concerning why the law doesn't mean what it says.

Good luck with that. :roll:

Ha, yeah.

Ms Miller (of the Clark County DA's office) refers to it as an "ambiguous statute." Looks to me like it says what it says!

I suppose the outcome is yet uncertain. But do standby. It ain't over yet. I'm told there are others looking into the matter.

[junglebob]

Clark county Nevada sounds like Cook county Illinois, except for the provision for concealed carry by permit holders. You have gun registration just like Nazi Germany and its wannabe police state like county in Illinois. Maybe in the future they will just stop registering handguns like Chicago did and make unregistered handguns illegal. Or they may just use the gun registration list to confiscate guns from private citizens. You may eventually end up like Chicago where only police, private security and Chicago alderman, and the mayor, can carry.

I'm sorry that you are being infected by Chicago transplants. The city is a gun control cancer that keeps trying to spread to other parts of the state of Illinois. Our Illinois State Police have decided to act as leaders of a police state by refusing to issue Firearm Owners ID cards to those under 10 years old. They are doing this even though state law sets no age limit.

[gvaldeg1]

Las Vegas Metropolitan Police (LVMPD) are still flouting the registration changes to Nevada Law! They still insist that the old 24 hour provision still applies. See what they say on their website:

http://www.lvmpd.com/permits/firearms_registration.html

Also, I called LVMPD and they insisted that the 24 hour provision still applied. They told me I could take it up with the Legislature in Carson City if I didn't like it. Someone in Vegas should point it out to the Clark County District Attorney's office (to Ms Miller perhaps) that the law is being flouted. Have them (her) look at the LVMPD's website.

I just got back from a short trip to Vegas. (I live in Arizona and have Arizona and Utah CCW Permits. The Utah Permit is recognized by Nevada now.) I registered the gun that I was carrying with the LVMPD within 24 hours because I don't want to be a test case (this is the second gun I've registered with the LVMPD). Even though I complied with their misinterpretation of the Law I'd like to see it straightened out for other people.

[varminter22]

Las Vegas Metropolitan Police (LVMPD) are still flouting the registration changes to Nevada Law! They still insist that the old 24 hour provision still applies. See what they say on their website:

http://www.lvmpd.com/permits/firearms_registration.html

Also, I called LVMPD and they insisted that the 24 hour provision still applied. They told me I could take it up with the Legislature in Carson City if I didn't like it. Someone in Vegas should point it out to the Clark County District Attorney's office (to Ms Miller perhaps) that the law is being flouted. Have them (her) look at the LVMPD's website.

Do you have the name of the person with whom you spoke???

[gvaldeg1]

Also, I called LVMPD and they insisted that the 24 hour provision still applied. They told me I could take it up with the Legislature in Carson City if I didn't like it. Someone in Vegas should point it out to the Clark County District Attorney's office (to Ms Miller perhaps) that the law is being flouted. Have them (her) look at the LVMPD's website.

Do you have the name of the person with whom you spoke???

I didn't get the name of the person I talked to when I called from Arizona but when I got my latest "blue card" at the LVMPD station at Las Vegas Blvd and Russell they told me the same thing, i.e. that the 24 hour registration was still in effect. I'm sure that you'll get the same answer regardless of to whom you speak. It's inculcated into them like a legal "holy grail"! Did you look at the link to their website that I posted? That's your best indication of them "snubbing their noses" at the law. It's just like Nevada SB 92 didn't exist.

[varminter22]

Apparently, not all law enforcement are being properly trained/notified!

Sheriff Gillespie received your letter regarding Senate Bill #92 from
the 74th Nevada Legislative Session and he has asked me to respond to
you in his behalf.

I would like to thank you for taking the time to express your concerns
regarding LVMPD and our community. It is hearing from grateful and
supportive citizens like you that makes me proud to serve you and strive
to do my job better.

As you pointed out in your letter, Senate Bill #92 requires the
amendment of ordinances or regulations adopted by local governments
before June 13, 1989, that require registration of a firearm capable of
being concealed to impose: (1) a period of at lest 60 days of residency
in the jurisdiction before registration of such a firearm is required;
and (2) a period of at least 72 hours for the registration of a pistol
by a resident of the jurisdiction upon transfer of title to the pistol
to the resident by purchase, gift or any other transfer. In addition,
the bill set requirements that the Board of County Commissioners,
governing body of a city and town board in a county whose population is
400,000 or more, shall amend any ordinance or regulation adopted by that
body before June 13, 1989 by January 1, 2008 or the applicable provision
shall be deemed to conform with operation of law (which is the above
mandated residency and time requirements).

To answer the questions in your letter:

Have the city/county ordinances been repealed/amended? Or is there a
move afoot to do so as required by Nevada Law? On December 18, 2007 the
Clark County Board of Commissioners adopted an ordinance that amended
county code implemented the required changes. The City of Las Vegas is
in the process of amending their city code to conform and reflect the
changes that are now in affect through operation of law.

Have the Sheriff and city police departments been informed that most of
the ordinances are now, or on January 1, 2008 will be, null, void and
unenforceable? As for LVMPD, my office produced a legislative guide
that informed our officers of all of the changes that impact their
duties were made during the 74th session. Senate Bill #92 and its
mandated changes were included in that guide.

Testimony during the passing of Senate Bill #92 reflected that
legislative intent was not to be a preemption bill and was to change the
law so residents of Clark County have 72 hours after receiving title to
register guns and if citizens who are not a resident, for purposes of
gun registration, become a resident of Clark County 60 days after they
arrive.

In addition, LVMPD's legal counsel, Clark County District
Attorney's office and Las Vegas City Attorney's office have all
reviewed Senate Bill #92 and have provided guidance that the enforcement
of these ordinances and codes should continue utilizing the new adopted
language in the Un-incorporated Clark County and the operation of law
(Senate Bill #92) in the City of Las Vegas until the city code can be
amended.

I hope that this information answers your questions and addresses your
concerns.

Tom

Lieutenant Tom Roberts
Director, Office of Intergovernmental Services
Las Vegas Metropolitan Police Department
Office: (702) 828-5538

While I don't agree with LT Roberts assessment stating the law only applies to registration, at least the LT agrees that non residents have 60 days before they must register handguns.

[gvaldeg1]

While I don't agree with LT Roberts assessment stating the law only applies to registration, at least the LT agrees that non residents have 60 days before they must register handguns.

At least Lt. Roberts is agreeing with the registration provisions of SB 92. This is certainly a "step in the right direction". Someone needs to communicate this to the various LVMPD stations.

However, I agree with you. There is much more to SB 92 than just registration. Any local regulations or ordinances more restrictive than Nevada State Law are now superseded. Apparently this still needs to be resolved.

[varminter22]

Definitely has NOT yet been resolved.

Many officials in Clark County are obviously NOT going to do the right thing. And that includes the District Attorney.

The NRA General Counsel (legal beagles) have indicated interest in assisting but at the moment are busy with briefs for the impending supreme court case.

I would encourage everyone to write similar letters to Clark County officials!

[EBDPA]

OK, I was told by another CCW holder for NV that they were taught by their CCW instructor that 'trespass' as it relates to being on a property marked with a 'no weapons' sign is FELONY TRESPASS in NV, specifically Clark County.

I was taught, in my class in Nye county, that if you entered an establishment with a posted sign while carrying concealed, and they caught you and told you to leave, and you did not, they could prosecute for misdemeanor trespass... if you left, no harm no foul....

Can anyone clarify or provide PC section for same?

[varminter22]

OK, I was told by another CCW holder for NV that they were taught by their CCW instructor that 'trespass' as it relates to being on a property marked with a 'no weapons' sign is FELONY TRESPASS in NV, specifically Clark County.

I was taught, in my class in Nye county, that if you entered an establishment with a posted sign while carrying concealed, and they caught you and told you to leave, and you did not, they could prosecute for misdemeanor trespass... if you left, no harm no foul....

Can anyone clarify or provide PC section for same?

I'm no legal beagle, but I do not believe the "felony trespass" thing.

[Bigdogcrise]

Greetings all:
I have read through most of the threads on the Nevada section and; being the short bus with the tinted windows riding kind of kid am very confused as to what the laws regarding carry in NV are. Let me set the scenario: I am a New Mexico resident with both a NM permit and a Utah permit. I will be coming into NV this weekend (2/2/200 2008), yes for the shot show. I had planned on at the very least bringing my pistol with me and keeping it in the vehicle whilst I travel. If I have read the threads correctly I will have to keep it and the ammunition separated and locked out of my reach. Additionally I will not be able to carry anywhere in the state unless I obtain one of the magic blue cards. Is this about correct? :oops:

[Bigdogcrise]

I had to add one more part to my questions. if indeed I can carry, where am I not allowed to carry? is it the same as NM?