Do you carry your gun when you are at home?

[EBDPA]

I am curious to hear from our group who carries concealed just when they are out and who carries even when they are home.

For me, my defensive firearm goes on my side when my legs go into my pants... and stays there until they come off at night. I believe and try to practice consistency. 95% of the time, I am carrying strong side, belt holster ( a don hume belt slide) under a cover garment.

In my area of the country, home invasion crimes are on a rise. I am just as likely to have someone come through my front door as to encounter a BG on the street, so I want to be prepared. In my opinion, there just wont be time to run to the gun safe when I hear the door being kicked in.

How about you? I am working on a series of articles about consistency in training. I look forward to your comments and to incorporating your thoughts into this series.

[Quick_Draw_McGraw]

this is one of my favorite quotes, which happened to come from my grandfather who is a retired VICE, homicide detective, police department, and marine.

"whats a gun any good if you don't have it and its not loaded."

i do the same thing, i mean now adays does anyone go anywhere without a cell phone, or their wallet? its the same to me as well as a assisted opening kershaw knife.

[VegasGeorge]

I don't know about you fellows, but I believe in safety first! :D

That's why always carry my gun in a small gun safe with a combination lock, the gun itself unloaded with the trigger lock in place. Of course, I carry the ammo separately.

Just kidding! :wink:

[junglebob]

I don't know about you fellows, but I believe in safety first! :D

That's why always carry my gun in a small gun safe with a combination lock, the gun itself unloaded with the trigger lock in place. Of course, I carry the ammo separately.

Just kidding! :wink:
For a minute there Vagas George you sounded like a paraniod Illinoisan.

EBDPA, I know California has some restrictive gun laws. Can a person carry concealed or open carry in their own home, or business without a permit? I know there was a case that went to court about someone carrying concealed in his own home in Wisconsin. The homeowner won however. Even Illinois isn't that bad.

[jayspapa2002]

I don't have my ccw yet ( sent in the 20th to Pa. ) but I do keep a gun near me in my home. I am disabled and know that i can't get to the gun if I wait for the door to be kicked in.

[CA CCWInstructor]

You do not need a CCW in your own residence or your own business per CA Penal Code.

[DAN]

I carry all of the time, where it is legal, and travel with my firearm. I always carry at home even when out doing my daily miles for PT.
I carry strong side always concealed.
Consistancy is the key to performance. when put under extreme stress a person will always go to the memories developed in training. It always amazes me that people with concealed permits don't usually train wearing concealed clothing, this is a dangerous trap and can cost you your life.

Train as you fight and you will fight as you train!
DAN

[99sparks]

When I moved to CA I had to get the cheapest place I could find. Bad news was a homeowners association. In 50 years never had one of them. Good news is as a member of the homeowners association I am an owner and can carry on property. When we go for a walk or walk the neighbor’s dog I carry. HOA is fenced ½ by ½ mile with (unarmed) security at the gate. Unleashed barking mutt charged at us the other day. Seeing the owner and observing the dog… no threat.

[jayspapa2002]

well I guess I need to be more clear..I wasn't trying to imply that a ccw was needed to carry in the home. I don't have the permit yet nor do i have the gun or holster I will carry in yet so can't carry concealed in my home. holsters and pistols I have now are not conductive for me to conceal . colt gold cup .45 and S&W 915 9mm. I'm really not as silly as I look.. :lol:

[VegasGeorge]

I have to admit that most of the time, I do not have my gun on my person while at home. It is readily available. Often, it is in its holster or bag, sitting on my desk or on the kitchen counter. I alway know exactly where it is.

However, I do realize than mine is not the best routine. I really should have the gun on me. If the bad guys come busting through my door, I may not have time to get to my gun.

[CA CCWInstructor]

Like most people gun in the holster after pants go on. It the last thing I do before pants come off. The safest place for that handgun to be is under my direct contol at all times.

[pioneer461]

I seldom have my firearm on my person when I'm at home, although there is normally one within arms reach.

[duc_fan]

Some good points about consistency and training. I recently picked up a new SIG P220 Carry (pics soon), and I've carried it open while in my apartment, and I take it with me when I go to visit family on the other side of town (though around their house it generally has to stay in a bedroom - Mom gets a little wierded out if I'm just carrying the gun around for hours on end).

Once I have an appropriate concealment holster (or two, or three...) I will probably heed the advice given here and carry at most times, if not all.

The point about training with concealment gear (concealed holster, common clothing, etc) was also a good one. Something I will certainly take note of as I practice.

Thanks for posting your experience, all. http://www.ducatimonster.org/smf/Smileys/classic/thumbsup.gif

--Dan

[tattedupboy]

I carry my weapon on my person religiously whenever I leave the house. At home my weapon's accessibility depends on the circumstances. When it is just me or myself and my girlfriend at home, I usually keep it out in the open, either on top of the nightstand or on the computer desk. When she has her kids over (who are 3 and 4), I lock it away. Also, the only time my weapon is ever loaded is when I'm carrying it. At home, my weapon's chamber is empty, with a full magazine and the safety not on.

[larryarnold]

I carry unless I'm in bed, for three reasons.
1. Personal protection: If I need my gun I want it close, and inside my wasteband is closer than any place I could stash it in my home. You don't usually get a timeout for weapon retreival.
2. Firearm security: If my Glock is on me it's secure. I don't have to worry about locking it up regardless of who comes over.
3. Convenience: I don't have to "get dressed" to leave the house if I don't "undress" when I return. This is particularly important when I receive a "get over here quick" call.

[Michael09]

I have a very strict gun control policy: if there's a gun around, I want to be in control of it.

[jlrea]

Always with me. I'm on a ranch and don't want to have to continually try to remember if I have it or don't have it when I move about the place. So it goes with me on the ranch, is with me at home, and stays with me when I travel, regardless of the method. And all ATVs and other vehicles have their own Mini-14 at all times.

[junglebob]

well I guess I need to be more clear..I wasn't trying to imply that a ccw was needed to carry in the home. I don't have the permit yet nor do i have the gun or holster I will carry in yet so can't carry concealed in my home. holsters and pistols I have now are not conductive for me to conceal . colt gold cup .45 and S&W 915 9mm. I'm really not as silly as I look.. :lol:
There is no need to conceal carry in your home, even Illinois gun laws aren't that bad. Go ahead and open carry if you want to, it's legal unless there is some bad firearms ordinance in your city or village. You could also open carry in your business if you own one or even a motel room you might stay in while traveling. Go ahead and excercise the few rights the Illinois law allows.

Glad to hear you're getting a Pa license. Since you are from Illinois go to Illinoiscarry.com/forum and join in if you haven't already. It is a website devoted to getting CCW legislation passed in Illinois.

I went to your first post where you introduced yourself, and you said you were from Southern Illinois, does that mean south of I64? Welcome to the forum in any case, I was gone over Christmas when you joined.

[Logan]

If my pants are on, my gun is too. Same thing goes for a pocket knife. :)

[Rentiers]

Folks,

Crime is like lightening. We never know where or when it will strike next.

I carry 24/7. There are very few times that I don't have my weapon on my body, locked & cocked, ready for business. I usually (open) carry inside the house, around the yard (even though with trees on all side the neighbors won't often see me carrying my firearm open). I always carry when I leave the property.

I work from home (gun lobbyist) so if I don't actually have one of my handguns ON my hip - say I'm seated at my desk in my office - then its on the desk or some other surface within reach. Due to existing state laws I can not carry when I'm up at the capitol lobbying, so I must leave my sidearm in my car. There are a few other places I cannot carry, but I can (and do) avoid those places as much as possible.

Some might consider it a nuisance to carry so much. My family is worth it. :D

Bill Rentiers

[larryarnold]

Due to existing state laws I can not carry when I'm up at the capitol lobbying, so I must leave my sidearm in my car.

I suppose that happens a lot. Here in Texas we have the metal detectors as you enter the capitol building in Austin, but you simply show your CHL and continue carrying.

Legally the government could post a PC 30.06 sign and keep us out of the gallery watching the Legislature, but they don't.

[nodaywithout]

for me i do not carry theat much, i used to carry all the time, atleast when i got home from work , i would go to my safe and strap up. i should get my permit soon so i will then start to carry outside the home since i moved into the new home i can only think of two occasions where i strapped up.

[Onree]

I work from home (gun lobbyist)

Sounds like a fun job! Where do I sign up? :D

I don't carry a gun on me when I'm in my own home. I have several guns "hidden" around my home. As I have no kids, I can get away with that for the time being. I can still get to them every easily. Other than the one on the headboard, they aren't in plain view.

[Bill of Rights]

I work from home (gun lobbyist)

Sounds like a fun job! Where do I sign up? :D

HA! I asked first! (in PM) :)

Blessings,
B

[jayspapa2002]

Hello again everyone. I just want to say that I have kept a handgun on my person or nearby while in my home or even when outside on my property for many years. As I type this my .45 is on my desk in case of an emergency. I have wanted to see a ccw license in Illinois for many years also. I love this site and also Illinois carry. for junglebob ...I am in Mt vernon .. where I-64 and I-57 cross. I really enjoy everyones feedback on all issues here. PS: I have carried openly while in the fields and even while walking the roads in the country, but never met up with a leo so don't know what the outcome would be. will continue to carry openly while out and about though as is my right!!!!!

[packnrat]

I don't know about you fellows, but I believe in safety first! :D

That's why always carry my gun in a small gun safe with a combination lock, the gun itself unloaded with the trigger lock in place. Of course, I carry the ammo separately.

Just kidding! :wink:
For a minute there Vagas George you sounded like a paraniod Illinoisan.

EBDPA, I know California has some restrictive gun laws. Can a person carry concealed or open carry in their own home, or business without a permit? I know there was a case that went to court about someone carrying concealed in his own home in Wisconsin. The homeowner won however. Even Illinois isn't that bad.

i do not have the law numbers for ca,
but one can carry a conceled weapon on his person anywere on his property...no permet required. (including while mowing the front yard)

at work only the owner can carry, employes can only have easy access to a firearm.

.

[45Fan]

When I am at home I have a gun on me or with in reach always. A buddy of mine always says "Self defense handguns dont live in black boxes". :)

[EBDPA]

Actually, you can open or concealed carry at your home, your place of business and at other temporary lodging such as a hotel or campsite.

Of course, giving away a tactical advantage by open carry when you are visible to the public is not very smart. Many open carry within their homes, but for me, when I am at my business, I prefer concealed carry for tactical advantage and because it is consistent with how I carry on the street.

Hope that helps...

[Stubob]

I was looking through this thread last night and a very bad man comes to the door last night. My wife answers the door but does not open the glass door. He is shaking and appears to be on some kind of crack. His car is running and the door is running in the street in front of the road - Very strange -

I come around the corner to see my wife backing up, he is shaking the door handle trying to get in, I notice the car in the street, and I step around the corner with my 1911 now out of my holster and in my hand.
His eyes got huge and ran off. I also had my NRA Hoodie that I got for Christmas. I live in a good part of town, but this is becoming way too common. No one leaves a car running and the car door open when they have good intentions.

To comment on the thread - Great comments - and some have brought up great points - I find it kind of funny that I had a situation where I may have needed my side arm to defend my home when reading this thread.

[Bill of Rights]

Thank God (and John Moses Browning!) that you were prepared and able to deal with this last night, Stubob, and more so that it was as easily resolved as it was.

I'm certain you filed a police report. Would you consider cross-posting this in the "CCW Saves Lives" forum. I suppose you might also consider sending it to the "Armed Citizen" link at NRA-ILA, despite them having sold us down the river.

Blessings,
B

[VegasGeorge]

Stubob - Good for you! :D

I've read way too many stories about homeowners who have gone to their door without their gun. I make it an absolute rule not to answer the door at night without my gun in my hand.

Never go to the door at night without your gun in your hand. Never go to check out a strange noise or commotion without your gun in your hand. Leave the safety ON, and keep your finger OFF the trigger. It's OK to keep your thumb on the safety for a quick reaction, but keep your trigger finger out of the trigger guard.

One other thing, be aware of the lighting at night. If you're answering the door, have the porch light on, and the room light behind you off or turned down.

Stubob - I'm not lecturing you here. I added these comments to help new folks that may not have thought through this situation.

[EBDPA]

Wow Stubob.. Thank God you were there and you wife did not have to resolve this situation on her own. I am sure she is grateful that you and your 1911 were backing her up...

I have not had any type of home invastion scenario at my house yet, but have 6 people within my relatively close circle of friends who have been held up at gunpoint either at their front doors or as they arrived home and got out of their cars. I certainly plan on being prepared.

[duc_fan]

Thanks for sharing, Stubob, and thank God the situation was resolved simply with presentation, and did not require any violent action. Glad that you and your wife are safe. http://www.ducatimonster.org/smf/Smileys/classic/thumbsup.gif

I haven't been carrying my handgun around the apartment much, but it it always within reach. Strange noises are always checked out with the gun on my person. Actually, I started that practice before I had a handgun. Strange thunks in the night were investigated with my AR-15 shouldered before I bought the SIG. I still keep the AR readily available, though, as I feel that I am more accurate and reliable with a carbine than a pistol.

[Bill of Rights]

6... friends who have been held up at gunpoint either at their front doors or as they arrived home and got out of their cars. I certainly plan on being prepared.

This brings up another question: How many of us back into the garage and close the door all the way before exiting the car? I do, and while someone in theory could enter the garage while I'm backing in, it's unlikely they could be well enough hidden to do me any harm before I could draw. For me, the benefits are that I have a full view of my surroundings before I exit the locked car, and when I'm ready to go somewhere, I also just drive straight out, and that's pretty cool when we're running on WST (Wife-Standard-Time).

Somehow, I get the feeling most here will be able to relate to that last.

Blessings,
B

[packnrat]

like the old saying goes, i only carry my gun X number of days a week.
guess the ones i do not?

i do not carry all the time when i am at home, but when i am not, that gun or another is not more than a couple steps away.

even here in the "country" one does need to provide for there familys well being.

[EBDPA]

One thought about your AR on the shoulder scenario... make sure you stow your electronic ear muffs right next to your AR.... if you discharge a rifle or shotgun indoors, you WILL LOOSE HEARING... forever... besides, when exploring your house, you will be amazed what the microphones of those eleectronic muffs will pick up 3 rooms away...

Also, you really have to consider your backstop with rounds from an AR... you could easily run a missed shot through 3 neighbor's homes unless you all have cement filled cinderblock walls between you...

2.5 cents...

[larryarnold]

Strange noises are always checked out with the gun on my person.

Anything strange, noisy or not. Including each of the many times one of my kids thought there was a monster under the bed/in the closet. Only once ("Daddy, there's something outside my window.") was the monster real.

That paid for all the false alarms.

[Mudcat]

I too, like most of you, carry almost constantly. If it is legal I am carrying.

One other thought about backing into the garage (or driveway). When leaving it is much more difficult to miss seeing any children that may be in the area. I also back into my driveway when I arrive at home as much to see what may be behind me as that I have had to many close calls with littles while trying to back out.

[deathintheafternoon]

Good topic.

I have had a CCW permit for about ten years now. After a year or two of lugging around a near full size hi-cap pistol, I fell into complacency and was often too lazy to do so. Luckily, it didn't take myself or anyone I know being a victim of violent crime, just a few scary local news articles, to wake me up. I now have a .38 J frame that I mostly carry in a pocket holster. It doesn't have the "firepower" of my other guns, but it has helped me get in the habit of always having it on me, even around the house. While my shotgun would be my first choice at home, I realized I might not be able to get to it. First rule of a gunfight, "have a gun". BTW, if you are a big guy, and a Glock G21 or a Sig 220 is a "concealable" handgun for you more power to you. I'm not knocking it, I just can't say the same.

[duc_fan]

One thought about your AR on the shoulder scenario... make sure you stow your electronic ear muffs right next to your AR.... if you discharge a rifle or shotgun indoors, you WILL LOOSE HEARING... forever... besides, when exploring your house, you will be amazed what the microphones of those eleectronic muffs will pick up 3 rooms away...

Also, you really have to consider your backstop with rounds from an AR... you could easily run a missed shot through 3 neighbor's homes unless you all have cement filled cinderblock walls between you...

2.5 cents...

Good idea on the electronic earmuffs. I should invest in some of those.

Backstop: I've done a lot of reading on this one. I use 52gr match hollowpoints. While you should ALWAYS be aware of what's beyond the target, some LE studies have found that a .223 hollowpoint has fewer problems with overpenetration than larger handgun ball ammunition, or a 12ga with buckshot. Trust me, if all .223 ammo overpenetrated like .223 ball, or worse, actual "penetrator" rounds, I would've bought a shotgun a long time ago and kept it loaded with a suitable light to moderate load for home defense. Again, not saying that it doesn't deserve care (all firearms do, and care should always be taken with what's behind the target), just saying that some LE studies show it isn't as bad for overpenetration as it might intuitively seem.

Anything strange, noisy or not. Including each of the many times one of my kids thought there was a monster under the bed/in the closet. Only once ("Daddy, there's something outside my window.") was the monster real.

That paid for all the false alarms.

I should have been more clear: anything strange. When I said "noise", it's simply because that's what normally tips me off. I live alone, so I don't have kids/spouse/roommate to alert me to anything unusual. If I see something strange, you can bet your bottom dollar I'm going to be armed if I have to check it out (by "have to" I mean, I'm not looking for trouble).

[Stubob]

Update On my incident the other day - I did not call the Police as I did not have a licence plate, but we did go to all of our neighbors and my wife and I told them what had happened. They were all grateful and had noticed an increase in traffic from cars that were not from our neighbors.

We turned in a list as a group to the Neighborhood Home owners manager and he is turning in a list of the cars to the police.

That was just another reason to have a defence tool handy.

To everyone posting on this thread - great information -

[packnrat]

One thought about your AR on the shoulder scenario... make sure you stow your electronic ear muffs right next to your AR.... if you discharge a rifle or shotgun indoors, you WILL LOOSE HEARING... forever... besides, when exploring your house, you will be amazed what the microphones of those eleectronic muffs will pick up 3 rooms away...

Also, you really have to consider your backstop with rounds from an AR... you could easily run a missed shot through 3 neighbor's homes unless you all have cement filled cinderblock walls between you...

2.5 cents...

Good idea on the electronic earmuffs. I should invest in some of those.

Backstop: I've done a lot of reading on this one. I use 52gr match hollowpoints. While you should ALWAYS be aware of what's beyond the target, some LE studies have found that a .223 hollowpoint has fewer problems with overpenetration than larger handgun ball ammunition, or a 12ga with buckshot. Trust me, if all .223 ammo overpenetrated like .223 ball, or worse, actual "penetrator" rounds, I would've bought a shotgun a long time ago and kept it loaded with a suitable light to moderate load for home defense. Again, not saying that it doesn't deserve care (all firearms do, and care should always be taken with what's behind the target), just saying that some LE studies show it isn't as bad for overpenetration as it might intuitively seem.

Anything strange, noisy or not. Including each of the many times one of my kids thought there was a monster under the bed/in the closet. Only once ("Daddy, there's something outside my window.") was the monster real.

That paid for all the false alarms.

I should have been more clear: anything strange. When I said "noise", it's simply because that's what normally tips me off. I live alone, so I don't have kids/spouse/roommate to alert me to anything unusual. If I see something strange, you can bet your bottom dollar I'm going to be armed if I have to check it out (by "have to" I mean, I'm not looking for trouble).

as we live out in the country, county sheriff is at least 1/2 to a hour away at a min.

just last mo (one week before christmas) my best friend, alarm and derternt had to be put down,(cancer ) 90 pound rott, 12 years old. just a big ball of love, very quiet......but when she barked it was time to do something.
having a loaded gun around is normal, any knock on the door is strange.
as most do not want to drive up the very rough rd to my house.
but i do feel sorry for the ups guy.

.

.

[Bill of Rights]

Very sorry to read of your loss. I had to have my Shepherd/Malamute cross put down going on a year ago, on her eighth birthday. There are few sadnesses worse than this. It may not be much comfort, but it has been for me to remember "Rainbow Bridge".

Blessings to you,
B

[Bill of Rights]

just last mo (one week before christmas) my best friend, alarm and derternt had to be put down,(cancer ) 90 pound rott, 12 years old. just a big ball of love, very quiet......but when she barked it was time to do something.

Very sorry to read of your loss. I had to have my Shepherd/Malamute cross put down going on a year ago, on her eighth birthday. There are few sadnesses worse than this. It may not be much comfort, but it has been for me to remember "Rainbow Bridge".

Blessings to you,
B

[Bill of Rights]

just last mo (one week before christmas) my best friend, alarm and derternt had to be put down,(cancer ) 90 pound rott, 12 years old. just a big ball of love, very quiet......but when she barked it was time to do something.

Very sorry to read of your loss. I had to have my Shepherd/Malamute cross put down going on a year ago, on her eighth birthday. There are few sadnesses worse than this. It may not be much comfort, but it has been for me to remember "Rainbow Bridge".

Blessings to you,
B

[brotherbill3]

PacknRat Wrote:
just last mo (one week before christmas) my best friend, alarm and derternt had to be put down,(cancer ) 90 pound rott, 12 years old. just a big ball of love, very quiet......but when she barked it was time to do something.

You have my condolences too,
I've been there several times (actually 4 just in the last 6 yrs, all over 12)- its hard to let go - but I take comfort from the new friends I've found since. Now all mine are younger again ... (My Golden Retriever is the oldest at almost 4) ... but they are the best 'early warning systems' ever. (even the last cat I had was a great 'alarm' if not so much of a 'deterent') ...

[nodaywithout]

just last mo (one week before christmas) my best friend, alarm and derternt had to be put down,(cancer ) 90 pound rott, 12 years old. just a big ball of love, very quiet......but when she barked it was time to do something.

Very sorry to read of your loss. I had to have my Shepherd/Malamute cross put down going on a year ago, on her eighth birthday. There are few sadnesses worse than this. It may not be much comfort, but it has been for me to remember "Rainbow Bridge".

Blessings to you,
B

I feel the same loss that you both have experienced, i put my dog of 14 years down dec 11 2006

[DMorrison]

There a few beings animal or human, that show you the dedication of beloved canine, often we find our families fail to show the dedication of our dogs. It constantly amazes me the depth of their loyality, love and foregiveness. Dog spelled backwards is God, and is my personal opinion that if we would like achieve godliness we should attempt to show more of the qaulities they do. They are truly one of our blessings. My condolences for the loss of your good friend, possibly your very best.

[Sky Pilot]

Yes.
As posted elsewhere:
I married a youngest.
No matter how old she gets, a youngest will always be "Daddy's Little Girl."
When I married her I as much as looked that fine man in the eye and swore, as one man to another, that I would always, always keep his little girl safe, and provided for, and I have done that.
John Moses Browning, thank you, sir.

[FL Guy]

I carry on the job of course, and I carry when I'm away from the house. I never carry at home, but I have weapons in most every room it seems.

[Outlaw]

My condolences also. I lost a beautiful Keeshond a couple of years ago to cancer. Best guard dog I ever had. I wound up with another with the same name "Bear" that looks identical. Got him from a Keeshond rescue outfit here in Denver. Their extremely loyal, follow you through hells fire. Stand right beside you when your shooting targets. Tear your best friends arm off if he hits you (without training) or steals your beer. Sit and bark at you and irritate the hell out of you until you scratch his head and give him some affection. When mine was racked with pain from the cancer he'd still get up and make it to the front door and bark if anyone even came near the front porch. Broke my heart to put him down :(

[treo]

Honestly about the only thing I do at home is sleep. & I generally wear sweats at home really isn't anything there to support a gun. So no I don't "carry" at home but that gun is never more than arms length away .

[VegasGeorge]

This business of the gun at home is troublesome. For one thing, leaving the gun laying around is just asking for it to fall into the wrong hands in an emergency situation. During the day, I often leave my gun on my desk or counter top near where usually sit. But, I'm not always there. And, I am fearful of forgetting it's there when I retire for the night. My worst fear is that someone will break in while I'm asleep, and I'll get shot with my own gun.

There is no easy answer to this problem. I think it boils down to two choices: (1) wear the gun on your person all the time, or;
(2) take a chance on not having it when you need it, and possibly having it fall into the wrong hands.

[Bill of Rights]

You've defined it correctly, George, as usual, and that is indeed what it boils down to. I share your concern, so if I'm home and I've put on pants that day (other than sweats or athletic shorts), I have my gun on me. When I can get a smaller pistol like a Kahr or a KelTec, I may carry even more regularly, but I won't carry something I'm unsure of, and if it has no manual safety, that's a deal killer.

It's become routine for me that when the pants go on, the next step in getting dressed is putting the gun in the holster IWB, which sometimes even precedes putting wallet, pocketknife, etc. in my pockets. (that was exceedingly frustrating one time when I made a quick run to the store and got there only to realize my wallet was still at home-but I had my pistol on my hip!) Likewise, last thing when getting undressed at night is to put the pistol where it sleeps, within quick, easy reach, but with just enough between me and it that I'll be awake before it's in my hand.

Cogito, ergo porto.

Blessings,
B

[treo]

If I ever actually NEED a weapon I am sure that I will be in adrenalin overload. Bearing that in mind, I work at keeping my SD options as simple as possible & minimalizing the proactive thought process as much as possible. I carry one weapon , one way. If I'm carrying its IWB @ 430, if not its sitting on the table / counter/ desk right infront of me. My CCW is a CZ75B .40 I carry it double action all the time. Finally to further CZimplify things my wifes SD weapon is also a CZ product that operates the same way mine does. I said all that to explain why I'd rather tote my CZ around the house W/ me than get a little pocket gun to carry in my sweats.